Prot Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I agree it seems the trend is for 1 maybe 2 top notch options and a couple others that may fit specific lists or playstyles. I am going off memory for what previous armies get though I do have the latest nid dex as a seconday army. When the new nid sex came out there were several cool hive rules though around 50 percent would gravitate to 1. Yup. The reason I said we will see that is because I play Eldar, and all these great new rules, and craftworld customizations came out, but really there's one super solid one, a few 'good' ones, and the rest is for flavour. Not a horrible thing, but the difference is when a Craftworld takes a skill set, it's basically an enhancment of base rules. very cool rules, but it doesn't interfere with anything else. The Cult thing... I'm really hoping it has a similar impact. There should be some underlying rules with the respective cults. IE: Time cult gets a re-roll per turn. The Yncarne and Archaeinox 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 The Cult thing... I'm really hoping it has a similar impact. There should be some underlying rules with the respective cults. lol are you feeling ok today bud? Better lie down Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 HOLY HELL!!!!! GW DID A GOOD ONE!!!!! https://www.facebook.com/warhammer40000uk/photos/a.1576243776029589/2525279694459321/?type=3&theater Prot, Skerr and Dolchiate Remembrancer 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 *DROWN THEM* in Inferno Shells. lol Dolchiate Remembrancer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Now THAT is a stratagem! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) Vet of the long war on 40 shots from 5 man SoT....good lord. I figured there would be more, good universal strats for us. I'm just dreaming of taking out all those tau meta drones....finally a good answer for crap like that. Edited January 16, 2020 by Ahzek451 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 So far GW is 2 for 2 on good Strategems. KEEP IT COMING!!! WOOO!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Risen Rubricae for optimal placement on 20 Rubes, fly an Exalted or Daemon Prince over for Prescience and reroll 1's......pop Infernal Fusillade and Vets. Roll almost 80 dice worth of glorious, flaming death. Infiltrators, Incursors, Scouts, and Tau Drones just became MUCH less of a problem. Sonoftherubric21 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) Praise the Changer of Ways!!! And only 1 cp to boot. Not sure if y'all saw the FB post on Malicious Volleys but its basically bolter discipline. Saw it right before this. Thanks Arch! Keep em coming GW! Edited January 16, 2020 by Skerr Sonoftherubric21 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 yeah facebook blew up at them too. I see why they put it in the book though once less book to carry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deTox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 That's pretty good indeed, but let's think about the usability a little, does this justify a 10/20 man rubric squad compared to MSU to maximise baby sites and prevent moral issues? To me sounds more appealing as a target for 5/10 SoT, but that again is kind of hard as you need to not have moved and that's very unlikely at least until turn 3 Also seems all the goodnes will be packed into stratagems, we won't be able to leave home without 2 or maybe even 3 battalions which will be tough to achieve with 10/20 man squads Netherless pretty good, finally something that hypes me a little about this reveal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) Well theres always a chance that the new rules might reveal another combo I.E. a strat, relic, power that makes a unit not count as moving. If not, I plan to try 1 of 2 things. Buried dust boys at more than 10 models popping up for double shoot. Or 2-3 squads of scarabs that deep strike, and I only need one squad to survive to use the strat. After waiting a turn of course. Edited January 16, 2020 by Ahzek451 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Frankly I can think of roughly a dozen games I have played since our book came out just off-hand where I had some Rubrics sitting on objectives for quite a while.... This strat will be *immeasurably* useful. And we still have so much yet to see but I love our strats so far. I may have to make peace with attempting to go Battallion/Battallion/Vanguard despite the cost in points! lol. Sawtooth 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) *hoping for a rule that allows a unit to retreat and shoot or shoot in combat.* Edited January 16, 2020 by Ahzek451 Sonoftherubric21 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) HOLY HELL!!!!! GW DID A GOOD ONE!!!!! https://www.facebook.com/warhammer40000uk/photos/a.1576243776029589/2525279694459321/?type=3&theater OH yea... that's what I'm talking about. 1 CP Cacaphony for wizards! (If only Rubrics counted as standing still for Maelific Volley purposes) Edited January 16, 2020 by Prot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Lately I have been using 3 to 4 Five man squads with bolters for objective sitting. Give the Aspiring Sorcerer a flamer pistol and see who takes the bait. Flamer, staff and smite (in following rounds) has been a good utility as opponents are picked apart by infernos looking to charge so this strat will work well for that. Archaeinox 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deTox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Alright Bois pour one out for our homie Soulreaper Cannon. R.I.P you tried your best. Archaeinox and Sawtooth 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) Looks like dust's back on the menu, boys Edited January 16, 2020 by Archaeinox The Yncarne, Dolchiate Remembrancer, Kite Senet and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomWolf Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Hard to use, but pretty powerful when you get it right. I approve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5462983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodd1888 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Seems like we're becoming a static army. Goal is to get where you want and keep them there. I think this makes sense with the boomerang style of Magnus. That said, still not quite seeing the greater picture of what this army is it does. We've seen more for psychics on GK and Eldar versus 1KS, and still aren't seeing a balance on the WC costs of our spells. I'm hoping all spells are printed in this book for a consolidation, but ideally some WC drops would be nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5463001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 All spells most likely won’t be complied in this book since none of the other books did this unfortunately. I get a kick out of GW claiming the didn’t want is arrying around so many books ala 7th edition. I’m fine with it but if you use Forgeworld and daemons, and. Vigilus...wow. it’s all good though. I like seeing more utility and damage from staple units. And I agree it would be nice to see some real decent psychic powers but they can’t show it all to us. The good thing about wizard cacophony is it should melt elites. I mean as it stands nothing prevents CSM from pulling this same trick off with termies but there’s just much better targets for it like Oblits, and Havocs. Yet still with VotLW this should put some T7 vehicles down and terrify some marine players. Unfortunately marines are a great matchup against TS infantry. But at least there’s some kick back combos here with Crystal and this stratagem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5463004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) To be honest I was shocked we got a 1CP strat that lets us do something we already do better.. So I'm starting to get that glimmer of Hope which Prot possesses. I'm past the worry point. I want exactly what they have previewed. The rest will be happy icing on the cake for my narrative games. Edited January 16, 2020 by Archaeinox Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5463006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyzariel Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 But at least there’s some kick back combos here with Crystal and this stratagem. Doesn't crystal make them count as having moved? Also I'm surprise at the amount of hype people are giving to this strat. I have never played a game where my opponent never just move out of range or outright just charge at my dust cans. You guys actually get to shoot with stationary rubrics? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5463039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I'm pretty sure it just says you don't count as having fallen back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5463042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 But at least there’s some kick back combos here with Crystal and this stratagem. Doesn't crystal make them count as having moved? Also I'm surprise at the amount of hype people are giving to this strat. I have never played a game where my opponent never just move out of range or outright just charge at my dust cans. You guys actually get to shoot with stationary rubrics? Yes they do count as having moved, but what you do is stand there and blast away, then teleport away when charged so ANOTHER squad can open up and murder the fools. Also, the Soulreaper still isn't too bad in Rubric squads. One bolter firing twice gets the same number of shots at worse strength and AP. SOT's can leave it at home, though. Wyzariel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360231-psychic-awakening-the-ritual-of-the-damned/page/17/#findComment-5463043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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