Taxidermied Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Wishlisting for an extended 2020 arsenal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxidermied Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 With last year seeing us recive the final few weapon options we were missing I’m curios to see what people would like to be gearing up with in the future. I’d prefer if we could stick to weapons for the existing classes, as we all want variant chassis and have an idea of which we are most likely to see. Warlord: Vortex Missile. Not quite sure how they’d pull this off as a carapace option unless they mounted a pair or made one of the hard points the targeting system. This is more about nostalgia for the classic warlord model than any wish for it in game. The core rules containing a weapon trait for vortex makes me feel that this will be a likely addition. Chainfist. Because why the hell wouldn’t you want a warlord rocking a huge ass chainsaw? Laser Gatler. Pretty much an arm mounted version of the laser blaster with even more barrels. Potentially with a slightly lower strength so that it doesn’t invalidate the carapace lasers (which I think are a junk option anyways), but it would be nice to have a laser system that isn’t hampered by the carapace blind spot. Plasma Destructor. Only because the Sunfury stole the name annihilator. The Sunfury seems more like the old destructor, while the annihilator was a grossly oversized cannon that spat out an frankly ludicrously huge ball of tasty plasma death. Let’s have a plasma weapon with this level of overkill make a return. Massive points value, more dangerous to fire than the belicosa, and a rate of fire that makes it a critical decision whether to unleash it or not. Head weapons. Something I believe should be reserved for variant warlords as command terminal rules. Reavers: Plasma Blastgun. It’d be nice to have the reaver rocking the classic plasma load out, either as a carapace or an arm mount. Or even both. I wouldn’t complain about turbo lasers being added as an arm mount to pair with volcano cannon reavers as the laser blaster feels like having to make do with a less than ideal weapon for long range support. Inferno Cannon. If hounds can have them then why not? Would still be a fairly meh weapon, but a fist reaver with a huge flame thrower has a certain appeal to it. Warhound: Ursus Claw. We’re getting it, so everyone can relax. Comes with a free copy of Moby Dick. Apocalypse Missile Launcher. I like the idea of hounds kitted out with a tubular missile system under the shoulder mounts. Gives laser hounds an option instead of just twin destructors for long range Tom foolery, and leaves them less dependent on a shield stripping partner. I’d drop the shots to 4, and remove the barrage rule along with reducing the range as these won’t be quite the scale of the larger titans launchers. Stops hounds becoming relatively cheap artillery platforms, but allows them to become long range flank harassers. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5463962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) If you look at the HH rulebooks Warlords can take carapace melta cannons, warp missiles, and even Warhound plasma blast guns IIRC (imagine that!). I’d love to see more options even for those of us who convert stuff. Also given the Reaver’s loadout I’d like to see another long range gun besides the volcano. Maybe a light quake gun? Edited January 18, 2020 by Fajita Fan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5463995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxidermied Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 I’d actually forgot to mention reaver quake cannons despite being one of the first things I’d thought of. There’s even a picture or two of reavers in the expansions that look suspiciously like reaver quake cannons. Good catch. Plasma blast guns on warlord carapaces had come to mind, but with the warlord’s longer heat track they just seemed a little mean to be mounting them. They’d also be at a negative to hit outside of the dead zone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5463997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arendious Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Titan-scale Volkite weapons. Preferably at least one for each class of Titan. malika666 and Noserenda 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxidermied Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 I like that idea. Volkites do look amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Some type of close combat weapon for the Warhound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) Oh and we need rules for the Ordo Sinister psi-titan Sinistramanus Tenebrae. Edited January 19, 2020 by Fajita Fan Mendi Warrior 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Warrior Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Well, basically I would love to see all the original weapons eventually come back in updated versions (preferably in plastic rather than resin as there are so many). I'd love the chainfist for the warlord and also inferno guns for both reavers and warlords (although not sure if these could be interesting to use vs. other titans). I guess I just love the idea of a gigantic barbecue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparika Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) I would love a mounted landing platform on a Warlord carapace. Now given the scale of the Aeronautica Imperialis planes, it would have to be something smaller than a thunderbolt, but an Aquila lander would be fun for objective extraction. And that would finally give something for the lasers to shoot at! Also, obviously the Cerastus knights variant are missing. Edited January 20, 2020 by Sparika Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolltonotdie Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I'd really like to see apocalypse missile pods as an arm option for reavers like this: You used to be able to get one from FW schoon, Marshal Loss, Noserenda and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 So you’d use that as just a long range shield stripper or would you add different profile missiles? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Psy titans could be fun. They could release either a set of resin weapons or even a third warlord weapon sprue, with a new head and so on. Posessed titans would also be fun, and could be done in the same way. Something like a Banelord might only use the skeleton frame from a warlord though, replacing the armour and weapon sprues with Khornified stuff. Or maybe the weapon sprue could include a load of horns, skulls and so on. Otherwise to be honest I think the warlord kit has had quite a lot of attention. The Ursus claws and maybe some other stuff for the reaver would come sooner on my list. Giving reavers plasma plastguns would be interesting from a balance perspective. I think they’d be by far the best option you could have for a carapace weapon. It’s never ideal to have something that’s too obviously good. They’d be one of the best arm options too. And a pair of these on a warlord’s carapace would be sort of insane, with the potential to land 8 S10 hits on whatever location they hit – which would kill just about anything. To be honest I don’t understand why these are blast weapons. They’d only really be fair on battle titans if they were not. It might be fun to have some cosmetic stuff. Different heads, landing pads, devotional bells and so on. Some of these might have an in-game effect and, now that I think about it, a good place to start would be with some of the Legio-specific wargear. You could have a resin set of remains of the fallen to stick on your Mortis titans, for example. 1ncarnadine and Fajita Fan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 No one's mentioned the WL Saturnyne Lascutter yet?? Dang, that's what I've been most excited for. I need more ineffectual WL close combat weapons for Vulpa. I’d actually forgot to mention reaver quake cannons despite being one of the first things I’d thought of. There’s even a picture or two of reavers in the expansions that look suspiciously like reaver quake cannons. Good catch. Are you sure it's not just images of the old Reaver VC that they left in? I think there's one or two instances of that in those books. The Warbringer released with a newer version that works between both kits, and they dropped the old one around then. It hadn't even been out that long. Then they included the newer version in the plastic AT Reaver kit as well.Here's the old one compared to the new one, for reference. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxidermied Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) Now I’ve seen the old model yes it’s the old volcano cannon. Shame, I’d been hoping for a reaver class quake or similar. With regards to psytitans and full on gribbly chaos ones I’d much prefer to see a couple more ‘generic’ classes first before the auto include choices sprung up. The Acastus knights made me worry about a potential ‘codex creep’ with new releases and I don’t believe they’d be anywhere near balanced. Classes such as the warbringer more than likely won’t be either, but at least they’ll fit into a different role to existing ones instead of just being warlord but better for instance. Reaver blastguns are in a strange position. As a carapace mount they’d be slightly reigned in by the blind spot meaning they’d always be at a negative to hit (iirc the short range correctly), and the 360 fire arc would require split fire to keep the titan firing at full capacity so isn’t a huge bonus compared to an arm mount being able to ignore the blind spot. I don’t think it would be an auto take, but fall into the same group as some other weapons tend to be. Those that are wonderful pieces of kit to play with, but need to rest of the Titans armaments to be somewhat built around them to obtain peek performance. As I hinted at before warlord carapace blastguns are just a no no in their current form. Drop blast and it would just become a very limited Sunfury at higher cost (using the approximate double pointing of a Warhound gun). Negative hit almost all the time, the dead zone, fixed fire corridor. It would need to be something new instead of a copy paste of the current blastguns. Edited January 20, 2020 by Taxidermied Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 The Warlord had a lascutter? I tried printing one for an Atropos knight but it wasn’t coming out right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxidermied Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 My first ever titan, back in the day of Space Marine, had a lascutter. You used to get a random sprue of four weapons out of three sprues. I hated it just because I was still a kid and wanted the chainfist set. I now love the idea of a ‘close combat’ weapon just being a giant cutting laser fired at point blank range and wiggles around to carve off chunks of the target. My first ever titan, back in the day of Space Marine, had a lascutter. You used to get a random sprue of four weapons out of three sprues. I hated it just because I was still a kid and wanted the chainfist set. I now love the idea of a ‘close combat’ weapon just being a giant cutting laser fired at point blank range and wiggles around to carve off chunks of the target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5464992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Saturnyne Lascutter: because weaponized ship breaking equipment is always cool... Warlord chain fist: Why not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5475819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Hopefully before too long there will be a second weapon sprue for the warbringer with bellicosa, melta and Gatling blaster. Reyner 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5475870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 What about some sort of missile pods for the Warhound? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5475902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Scrapcode emitters could be interesting. Corrosive/acid rounds and munitions. Some form of sonic weapon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5475903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Warrior Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Huge spikey wrecking ball Hidden Content desperately trying to dissociate this from images of a somewhat eponymous video clip … Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5475910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Wasn't there a siege Titan variant with a drill and something in the Titandeath novel? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5475932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxidermied Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Huge spikey wrecking ball Hidden Content desperately trying to dissociate this from images of a somewhat eponymous video clip … The Rob Jeremy cover version springs to mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5475959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 This may be of some interest. "Sagitta Auri and the Warlord Dei Deus moved ahead of the siege Titan Atranican, a heavy model equipped for battery, with a wrecking ball for one hand and a multi-headed drill on the other, both shimmering with disruption fields. The two smaller Titans shielded the heavier engine with their bodies, firing as they walked. " "Atranican moved in towards the glowing wall face, its drill bits already spinning. As it strode, its weapons moderati set the great ball swinging. It was an unwieldy weapon that required rare skill to wield. As Atranican approached the wall a dozen cannons opened fire upon its stalking form. Displace- ment flare from its shields earthed itself into wrecks and naked stone. On it walked, swivelling its torso so that the ball whipped back. At the perfect distance, the wrecking ball swung forwards, crashing into the section blackened by the maniple’s attack. The disruption field went off with a crack like nearby thunder. The wall shook. A fall of false stone rumbled from the upper reaches, tearing off the broken teeth of the crenellations. Atranican stepped back and swung again. In the lee of the wall, it was safe from the defenders in the hive, and there were none upon the walls when it began. Those that came to repel the Titan were shot by Atranican’s comrades. When not defending the Titan directly, they added to the damage the fortifications had already taken." RipOffProductions and Mendi Warrior 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361333-hoped-for-weapon-expansions/#findComment-5476094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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