Aothaine Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 So, does the Rubicon replace all missing parts? From what I've read it repairs and adds new organs as such. If it does this do the Iron Hands have newly emerged Primaris Marines go straight from the vat to the medic to have their left hand chopped off? What about all the other replaced parts? Do they keep them and cut out the parts to re-use those old bionic bits? What do you all think? BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 It's new implants, I doubt it "buds" new limbs or organs. Lord_Caerolion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5465943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 But I thought there were stories of marines that were almost dead going into it and coming out whole again. Wouldn't that mean it also heals? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5465959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 There's a difference between keeping you alive and regenerating lost body parts. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5465967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ergonomic Enginseer Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 If we look at named characters that have crossed the Rubicon like Marneus Calgar he still has his bionic eye implant. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5465985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Fair points. Thank you for your thoughts for sure! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5465990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Does Marneus still have bionic arms and legs too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Wait.. did he have bionic arms and legs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 In ancient fluff, yes, back in Rogue Trader I believe. As for the Rubicon, the stories are that Marines that are almost dead go in and come out alive, nothing's said that they get miraculously healed. It doesn't even repair scar tissue, per Spears of the Emperor, so it definitely doesn't regrow limbs. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 During the Battle of Macragge against the Tyranids, Calgar stood his ground on Cold Steel Ridge against horde of xenos attackers. But the Tyranids were too many, and his body was rent and torn. Calgar faced down the Swarmlord, but due to his injuries was no match for the beast. Before he could be finished off, he was rescued by his fellow Ultramarines. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 That doesn't necessarily mean he has bionic parts, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 That doesn't necessarily mean he has bionic parts, though. It was stated he lost his arms and legs against the Swarmlord. That being said, we don't know his limbs status. We DO know he's likely got at least one bionic arm again after his duel with Abaddon on Vigilus, because Abaddon cut one of the Gauntles of Ultramar off his arm. The Rubicon Primaris and how it reacts to the Marine's bodies.... I think it might regrow limbs? It's certainly implied to completely redo their skeletal structure. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Again, if it doesn't fix scars, I doubt it regrows limbs. Dumah 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 What if you can choose what it fixes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 ...then why would you not fix everything? It really seems like grasping at straws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 Yeah I dunno know. Just a thought experiment. :P BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 How would you do that, Aothaine? Politely ask the organs before you implant them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 How would you do that, Aothaine? Politely ask the organs before you implant them? Isn't it a machine that does the implanting? If so, it must have a machine spirit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 The Rubicon can only do so much... don’t get greedy like the lil piggy. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 The Rubicon can only do so much... don’t get greedy like the lil piggy. lol :p It is all good. Us Iron Hands know how to get 120% from our machine spirits. Maybe we can modify it to add a few mechanical parts to our Primaris. Have them come out proper. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5466539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) The Rubicon can only do so much... don’t get greedy like the lil piggy. :D lol :p It is all good. Us Iron Hands know how to get 120% from our machine spirits. Maybe we can modify it to add a few mechanical parts to our Primaris. Have them come out proper. Then cut off the offending parts. I have corrected your error brother ;) Edited February 26, 2020 by PJ1933 BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5481979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I would absolutely keep my scars, and in fact might ask the Rubicon to give me a few more, cuz chicks dig scars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5482176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Lol ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5482386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) I believe going through the Rubicon does replace missing parts? In Spears of the Emperor it was used to rebuild the destroyed body of an Astartes Captain. Marneus was indeed missing all 4 of his limbs, I suspect they are back now. Edited February 27, 2020 by Ishagu BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5482495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Marneus is still missing his eye though, as has been mentioned before. Same with the injuries he sustained from duking it out with Abaddon. As for Amadeus' recovery in Spear of the Emperor, he was still whole. It's "just" that his entire body was carefully mutilated to the point of uselessness, which is something that his ascension seems to have fixed. I think fixing what remains of an Astartes' body is the extent of the rubicon's abilities. I wish we knew exactly how extensive the injuries of Master Lazarus were - that would have provided a clearer picture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361411-the-rubicon-and-iron-hands/#findComment-5482501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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