Warhead01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 It's the oddity of the system that (on 5 attacks) assuming no exploding hits he can drop 5 guardsmen or a knight... It's one thing in AoS that I like is whereby damage spills over. That said, the article amused me it was fun. All it needed to be. I shared it on Facebook and Crikey, people went nuts... He would be absolutely feared if his damage spilled over. It's a shame he wasn't the exception to the rule. 01RTB01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5496966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 It's the oddity of the system that (on 5 attacks) assuming no exploding hits he can drop 5 guardsmen or a knight... It's one thing in AoS that I like is whereby damage spills over. That said, the article amused me it was fun. All it needed to be. I shared it on Facebook and Crikey, people went nuts... If I can punch really, really super hard, I might be able to damage a Knight, but no matter how hard I punch you it won't make that guy standing next to you get punched. Dumah 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5496968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 It's the oddity of the system that (on 5 attacks) assuming no exploding hits he can drop 5 guardsmen or a knight... It's one thing in AoS that I like is whereby damage spills over. That said, the article amused me it was fun. All it needed to be. I shared it on Facebook and Crikey, people went nuts... If I can punch really, really super hard, I might be able to damage a Knight, but no matter how hard I punch you it won't make that guy standing next to you get punched. Oh I don't know, ghaz is that big he could swing a punch through a bunch of dudes - Sauron and lord of the rings springs to mind? Regardless, I love the model and rules. Can't wait to paint him Just can't decide on army colours or classic Goff. Don't know if I can bring myself to paint him army colours... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5496975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I don't like damage spilling over. Ghaz should have a "sweep" attack, like S:User AP:-2 D:1, but makes 3 hit rolls with for every attack.By the way, look what I have: Ghaz is HUGE. Warhead01, 01RTB01, Lord_Caerolion and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5496979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I don't like damage spilling over. Ghaz should have a "sweep" attack, like S:User AP:-2 D:1, but makes 3 hit rolls with for every attack. By the way, look what I have: Ghaz is HUGE. I don't disagree. More importantly, very nice!!!! Enjoy it dude. What you going with for pose and colours? Nice :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5496982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) It's the oddity of the system that (on 5 attacks) assuming no exploding hits he can drop 5 guardsmen or a knight... It's one thing in AoS that I like is whereby damage spills over. That said, the article amused me it was fun. All it needed to be. I shared it on Facebook and Crikey, people went nuts... If I can punch really, really super hard, I might be able to damage a Knight, but no matter how hard I punch you it won't make that guy standing next to you get punched. Oh I don't know, ghaz is that big he could swing a punch through a bunch of dudes - Sauron and lord of the rings springs to mind? Regardless, I love the model and rules. Can't wait to paint him Just can't decide on army colours or classic Goff. Don't know if I can bring myself to paint him army colours... As Toaae says, that's what "sweep" profiles are for. A hit roll should mean that that particular attack hit. Otherwise, you end up with weirdness like why only the first guys armour matters, and the "overspill" guy is just assumed to have his armour fail too, and why does a sweep from Ghaz always kill the same number of guardsmen. EDIT: Regarding colour, I think I'll have him in Goff colours if I ever do get him, I'll just make sure to have some totally-not-stolen-Goff gear on some of my Deathskulls, or just in a Goff detachment. Edited March 27, 2020 by Lord_Caerolion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5496988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Despite all my stuff being Red or Orange, I plan to paint him up in proppa' Goff colors. I plan to later get another one, and convert up Tortoof 2.0, who will be red. Dumah, 01RTB01 and Warhead01 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIXWYRMEXIX Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I don't like damage spilling over. Ghaz should have a "sweep" attack, like S:User AP:-2 D:1, but makes 3 hit rolls with for every attack. By the way, look what I have: Ghaz is HUGE. I am jealous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaiel Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Got my box today aswell. Ghaz is a thick boy! The base is really lovely, like a mini diorama in itself. Oh, and Ragnar is cool too... Warhead01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) I don't like damage spilling over. Ghaz should have a "sweep" attack, like S:User AP:-2 D:1, but makes 3 hit rolls with for every attack. By the way, look what I have: Ghaz is HUGE. Please do a good size comparison shot of ghaz. There's been no good ones. My box looks like it's being picked up today for delivery *fingers crossed* Edited March 27, 2020 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 For anyone curious about size comparisons, found this floating around the Faceblorks: Really wasn't expecting a GW Ghaz to be on the same scale as Artel W's Ironboss, but here we are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 would have liked to see Nu Ghaz next to Old Ghaz. Or a GW war boss. Not heard of this iron boss mini before no idea how large it is. Wish GW would have lined them up for us. XIXWYRMEXIX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Plenty pics of him floating around on Facebook. He's next a Redemptor and he's huge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I’ve seen a few pictures floating around, and new Ghaz looks to be a little under twice the height of the old one. Twenty years of swole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Ghaz stood next to a variety of stuff: https://m.facebook.com/groups/167784630036265?view=permalink&id=1622552717892775&fs=1&focus_composer=0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 The link doesn't work for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5497632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Wow... Just read the fluff from saga of the beast. For a saga about the Beast I've no idea where ghaz is or what he's up to. It's generic, doesn't advance the story bar the fact there's a great waaagh. I didn't expect resolution but I kinda expected some discussion of ghaz bar his datasheet entry. Very disappointed I'm afraid. The rules section I love but the fluff was more of a let down that the thrones final season :( Noone can spoil anything because nothing happens!!! Lord_Caerolion and Warhead01 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5498052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 For those who wanted some hot Ghaz-on-Ghaz action, more from Facebook: Magos Takatus, Warhead01, XIXWYRMEXIX and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5498463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Wow... Just read the fluff from saga of the beast. For a saga about the Beast I've no idea where ghaz is or what he's up to. It's generic, doesn't advance the story bar the fact there's a great waaagh. I didn't expect resolution but I kinda expected some discussion of ghaz bar his datasheet entry. Very disappointed I'm afraid. The rules section I love but the fluff was more of a let down that the thrones final season Noone can spoil anything because nothing happens!!! That's basically been how all the Psychic Awakening books have been, just a rough overview of "these are what these factions are getting up to now", and in the case of the Blood of the Phoenix the fluff of the battle between Jain Zar and Drazhar wasn't in the main book, but the fluff book included in the box set. The same thing has probably happened has probably happened here. Saga of the Beast has fluff on the general status of Orks and Space Wolves in the galaxy, and Prophecy of the Wolf contains the details of the fight between Ragnar/Ghazgkull. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5498552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) so I finished the audio drama. the fight was decent Ghaz and ragnar both had the same "vision" that ended with both of them going black. Ghaz ordered the fleet not to fire on the single wolf ship. Ghaz shared his vision with Mad doc, ghaz alluded to his demise, but not his demise. mad doc got to work on something new for ghaz, at the same time ordered orks to kill the wolves if they find them to prevent it. Ghaz spoke in High gothic (latin), that terrified a priest, and left him alive for ragnar to find, to tell ragnar exactly where he was. Ghaz also spoke low gothic. Tsons were aware of the prophecy and tried to stop it. people are inferring this as Tsons wanting to keep orks surpressed, but this felt like another reason. ( my guess, wolftime) Ghaz fought Wulfen, ragnar, ragnar's wolves at the same time. Ghaz cut the wulfen in half. Ragnars dogs nipped at his feet, before ghaz had mega nobs appear and his wolves died killing a bunch of them. ragnar and ghaz were both monologueing in this fight. Ghaz repeatedly states, in the beginning middle and end of the drama that this is the start. ( basically this fight is a catalyst that evolves ghaz, and kicks off ghaz's beast waagh, and probably restarts the galactic waagh network thing ) they are both pummeling each other, ragnars armor is done, blood everywhere, pistons and cuts on ghaz. Ghaz eggs ragnar on, ragnar jumps, ghaz catches him with his claw and as he crushes ragnar cuts off his arm. Ragnar manages to get his one arm free and rams his frost sword through ghaz's broken armor into his neck. Ghaz's last words were " This... This is how it starts" and "(died) smiling". Ragnar "dies" next to ghaz. ----------------------------------- then the audio drama ended. from here in the PA we know Maddoc after this fight found ghaz and recovered him and re-stiched him together. honestly getting your head cut off as an ork isnt that bad. Ragnar is rescued by another space wolf force I think ghaz spoke Perfect High gothic. Edited March 30, 2020 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5498992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The more I look at Nu-Ghaz the less I like that model. GW should have lead with that Audio Drama instead of just saying Ghaz and Ragnar just killed each other and came back. The plot is actually interesting and maybe even good "world building". Sound like we lave a lot to look forward to over the coming years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5499263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The alternate pose for ghaz looks 10 times better imho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5499302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andes Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Took a look back through the thread but couldn't find reference to the audio drama -- TIA if someone could toss up a quick link. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5499365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Saga of the beast by David annandales It's on audible and warhammer stuff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5499392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I've built mine with "alt pose" and smoking guns. Looks infinitely better than dakka ghaz imo (My copy of prophecy, 2 mek guns and Goliath arrived :D ) Edited March 31, 2020 by 01RTB01 toaae and XIXWYRMEXIX 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5499434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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