Marshal Rohr Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) It might not even be anything nefarious or dramatic. He might’ve decided it’s a lot of effort and he’d rather hang with his family after work. Also, Daz is the Heavy Metal manager. There isn’t a scenario where some suit comes in and jacks him up or talks down to him. Also, maybe he’s mothballing the channel not because GW told him to, but because Duncan is about to start one and he doesn’t want to compete with Duncan by offering the same or similar techniques that might drive people or advertisers away from Duncan’s channel. Nick Bayton pitched an unaffiliated YouTuber in a hang out and paint (Oscar Lars) and he’s always on message in Company shows, so I don’t think there’s any kind of legal sword of Damocles hanging over anyone’s head ready to fall when the say ‘MicroSet’ or ‘airbrush’. Edited February 23, 2020 by Marshal Rohr painting.for.my.sanity, Antarius, Panzer and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5480931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 He's not the 'Eavy metal manager, he is on the Miniatures Design team. He use to be in 'Eavy metal several years ago though :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5480951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I'm sorry to hear this. I haven't watched his videos yet but I've got a tab in my browser open to his channel, I've just been too lazy to watch them. Looks like I'll have to rush. I liked the Warhammer TV painting tutorials because they had something for all skill levels and I felt I could learn something from every video I watched. The most recent ones with the "battle ready" tutorials seem to just boil down to sticking on a basecoat of each colour and apply some Agrax Earthshade over it. I don't want to sound snobby but I've not got much out of those videos and I thought the Darren Latham channel would be useful to help up my game. It's only a six month old channel but I feel the community will be poorer for it's absence. Lord Marshal and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5480977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I'm sorry to hear this. I haven't watched his videos yet but I've got a tab in my browser open to his channel, I've just been too lazy to watch them. Looks like I'll have to rush. I liked the Warhammer TV painting tutorials because they had something for all skill levels and I felt I could learn something from every video I watched. The most recent ones with the "battle ready" tutorials seem to just boil down to sticking on a basecoat of each colour and apply some Agrax Earthshade over it. I don't want to sound snobby but I've not got much out of those videos and I thought the Darren Latham channel would be useful to help up my game. It's only a six month old channel but I feel the community will be poorer for it's absence. Agreed. They should have one of the intern's/ painting pit slaves churn out the battle ready vids, have the real talent focus on more advanced painting vids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5480993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Napalm Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Really hope someone archives his videos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5480996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Ok, thread open again. Someone has pointed out to me that he confirmed it in a reply on instagram. Continue the discussion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 It might not even be anything nefarious or dramatic. He might’ve decided it’s a lot of effort and he’d rather hang with his family after work. Also, Daz is the Heavy Metal manager. There isn’t a scenario where some suit comes in and jacks him up or talks down to him. Also, maybe he’s mothballing the channel not because GW told him to, but because Duncan is about to start one and he doesn’t want to compete with Duncan by offering the same or similar techniques that might drive people or advertisers away from Duncan’s channel. Nick Bayton pitched an unaffiliated YouTuber in a hang out and paint (Oscar Lars) and he’s always on message in Company shows, so I don’t think there’s any kind of legal sword of Damocles hanging over anyone’s head ready to fall when the say ‘MicroSet’ or ‘airbrush’. There's minimal cross-over from Duncan to Darren's stuff, that's like saying Porsche are impacting Ford sales. I'd expect it's more to do with GW wanting to get a cohesive resource together for this kinda thing. It's a huge shame if he stops doing them though, they're fantastic. Rik BLACK BLŒ FLY and BitsHammer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Color theory, shading, and paint selection, etc have minimal crossover? Edited February 24, 2020 by Marshal Rohr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 With the levels the two of them work to, yeah, there's minimal crossover. They both paint miniatures with brushes, but let's be honest here (and I like Duncan's videos) the techniques that Darren talks about are definitely WAY above the level that Duncan is used to doing. Rik BLACK BLŒ FLY and Subtleknife 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I'm kind of hoping that Daz continues his work on the Warhammer channel, since I'm exploring more advanced techniques in my painting and his videos are an excellent source of ideas to try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 IRC all Employees have something in their contract about not setting up a channel or Twitch stream if they are part of the company, even when they leave it's still in place for a month or two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 With the levels the two of them work to, yeah, there's minimal crossover. They both paint miniatures with brushes, but let's be honest here (and I like Duncan's videos) the techniques that Darren talks about are definitely WAY above the level that Duncan is used to doing. Rik That's just not true. Duncan's *job* was to paint that way. There's no reason he wont start doing more advanced techniques on his own channel. I've watched all of Darren's videos, he is exceptionally talented but he isnt doing anything esoteric. It's not like glazing is some dark art, you just have to be good at it, know how to handle the brush, and have the right consistencies. The mindset that what Darren is doing is special or for certain people only is exactly what he wanted to correct with his channel. You're not watching a ford vs ferrari part breakdown, you're watching an expert driver handle any vehicle we could all own. Dagoth Ur, Panzer, Lord Marshal and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Imeran Byon Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I "backed up" his channel as far as I can see (don't know about any unlisted videos). 13GB and then some, all in 1080p. I won't make those public, for obvious legal reasons and also, because as far as I'm concerned it is Darren's wish to close the channel and remove the videos from public access. I won't go against that wish. A bit hypocritical, ripping them in the first place, then? I realize that. I won't try to defend that. Hit me up if the videos ever do get deleted and at some exact moment, you need exactly one video from him. I'll see if I can provide it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I'm just not taking any chances. I'm saving them locally for my own personal use. Takes a while, but I'm not willing to take any sort of risk here. mel_danes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronos1985 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 How are you all saving them? I don't see an option on the desktop version, only via the phone app. Master Commander Ajax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Another cocked up decision by GW HQ. Mmmmm Napalm 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 How are you all saving them? I don't see an option on the desktop version, only via the phone app. probably with video capture software on a pc mate. Chronos1985 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andes Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 There are many Youtube downloader apps out there. Wield your Google-fu. BitsHammer, Axineton, Iron Father Imeran Byon and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Another cocked up decision by GW HQ. Where are you finding this is a GW decision? Could be he found the filming and editing of these tutorials way more work than he bargained for and decided he wanted to spend his free time on something else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 His channel is up till the 18th of May according to a twitter post of his I saw this morning. Master Commander Ajax, BitsHammer and BLACK BLŒ FLY 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Another cocked up decision by GW HQ. Where are you finding this is a GW decision? Could be he found the filming and editing of these tutorials way more work than he bargained for and decided he wanted to spend his free time on something else? If that were the reason, there would be no point to take the already produced videos down. He'd just stop uploading more. BLACK BLŒ FLY, Marshal Loss, Halandaar and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Something that is possible is that GW saw how popular said videos are and want to make a proper Masterclass series, hence the need for the takedown due to it becoming a competing product. Mind you it's wild speculation, but Darren did help write the original 'Eavy Metal Masterclass painting guide: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Something that is possible is that GW saw how popular said videos are and want to make a proper Masterclass series, hence the need for the takedown due to it becoming a competing product. Mind you it's wild speculation, but Darren did help write the original 'Eavy Metal Masterclass painting guide: That's an interesting idea. Maybe the whole project was to guage the interest for a 'Masterclass' level of video content on the Warhammer TV page? Duncan and Nick mentioned having to pitch certain types of videos (Long form painting and alternate schemes in one video) because the decision makers were unsure if the views would be there and they turned out to be the most viewed content. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 It might not even be anything nefarious or dramatic. He might’ve decided it’s a lot of effort and he’d rather hang with his family after work. Also, Daz is the Heavy Metal manager. There isn’t a scenario where some suit comes in and jacks him up or talks down to him. Also, maybe he’s mothballing the channel not because GW told him to, but because Duncan is about to start one and he doesn’t want to compete with Duncan by offering the same or similar techniques that might drive people or advertisers away from Duncan’s channel. Nick Bayton pitched an unaffiliated YouTuber in a hang out and paint (Oscar Lars) and he’s always on message in Company shows, so I don’t think there’s any kind of legal sword of Damocles hanging over anyone’s head ready to fall when the say ‘MicroSet’ or ‘airbrush’. There's minimal cross-over from Duncan to Darren's stuff, that's like saying Porsche are impacting Ford sales. I'd expect it's more to do with GW wanting to get a cohesive resource together for this kinda thing. It's a huge shame if he stops doing them though, they're fantastic. Rik Something that is possible is that GW saw how popular said videos are and want to make a proper Masterclass series, hence the need for the takedown due to it becoming a competing product. Mind you it's wild speculation, but Darren did help write the original 'Eavy Metal Masterclass painting guide: That's an interesting idea. Maybe the whole project was to guage the interest for a 'Masterclass' level of video content on the Warhammer TV page? Duncan and Nick mentioned having to pitch certain types of videos (Long form painting and alternate schemes in one video) because the decision makers were unsure if the views would be there and they turned out to be the most viewed content. That's exactly what I said yesterday. Rik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Maybe you shouldn't have said it like moving a brush across a model is only for certain ubermensch and someone as nice as Duncan Rhodes is the economy class of painting? Kastor Krieg, Oxydo, Panzer and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362123-darren-latham%E2%80%99s-youtube-channel-coming-to-an-end/page/2/#findComment-5481570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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