Astartes Consul Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Been playing with the idea of building a non-conventional V Legion force for a while, based around a fast moving but heavily armoured spear tip. The kind of formation that, fluff wise, is rare but present in the legion structure. Came up with the below, and was wondering if it would at all work as a list? Mainly self explanatory, with the Praetor, Apothecary and 15 man Tactical Squad all going in the Heavy Support Spartan. Would this work? HQ Legion Praetor [200] Praetor [1]: Master-Crafted Paragon Blade, Volkite Serpenta, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Cyber Hawk, Melta Bombs. Legion Champion Consul [140] Consul [1]: Master-Crafted Paragon Blade, Combi-Bolter, Cataphractii Terminator Armour. ELITES Legion Cataphractii Terminator Squad [375] Legion Terminator Sergeant [1]: Power Glaive, Grenade Harness. Legion Terminators [8]: Power Axes [3], Power Fists [3], Twin Lightning Claws [2]. Legion Spartan Assault Tank [375] Spartan [1]: Heavy Bolter [1], Sponson Quad Lascannons [2], Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shield, Dozer Blade. Legion Apothecarion Detachment [65] Legion Apothecary [1]: Power Sword, Artificer Armour. TROOPS Legion Tactical Squad [255] Legion Tactical Sergeant [1]: Power Glaive, Bolter, Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs Legion Tactical Marines [14]: Bolters, Combat Blade, Legion Vexilla. Legion Tactical Squad [175] Legion Tactical Sergeant [1]: Power Glaive, Bolt Pistol, Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs Legion Tactical Marines [9]: Combat Blade & Bolt Pistols, Legion Vexilla. Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier [45] Rhino [1]: Extra Armour, Dozer Blade. FAST ATTACK Kyzagan Assault Speeder Squadron [230] Kyzagan Assault Speeders [1]: Kheres Assault Cannon, Twin Reaper Autocannon, Hunter Killer Missiles [2]. Kyzagan Assault Speeders [1]: Kheres Assault Cannon, Twin Reaper Autocannon, Hunter Killer Missiles [2]. Legion Sabre Strike Tank Squadron [180] Sabre Strike Tank [1]: Anvilus Snub Autocannon [1], Volkite Culverin [1], Extra Armour. Sabre Strike Tank [1]: Anvilus Snub Autocannon [1], Volkite Culverin [1], Extra Armour. HEAVY SUPPORT Legion Spartan Assault Tank [375] Spartan [1]: Heavy Bolter [1], Sponson Quad Lascannons [2], Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shield, Dozer Blade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363094-white-scars-heavy-assault-list-2500pts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicebod Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Interesting list! I have a few thoughts: Your champion is basically a praetor-lite, which I'm not sure you need. You may be better off with a chaplain - especially with a power glaive, he's not missing out on AP 2 at initiative, and his buffs can really be a force multiplier for one of your assault-y squads. Your 15 man tactical squad - this is going to go in the HS Spartan, correct? Certainly a really cool idea, but they're not going to do much as a dedicated assault unit. Any other close combat specialist unit likely has AP 3 weapons and will chew these guys up. One scary Spartan deathstar is usually enough. There isn't any anti-air in this list, which may or may not be a problem for you depending on your opponents. The Sabre & the Speeders feel like (to me at least) they fill the same slot - fast mid-AV anti-armor. Apart from the spartan weapons you don't have much to tackle AV 14+ Cataphractii terminators look incredible, but keep in mind they preclude your very killy praetor from sweeping combats. Consider tartaros here or a different assault unit, like weaponmaster veterans (still scoring!). In keeping with your theme (which is awesome!), some additions or substitutions may include: Keeping the full mechanized theme and adding a second rhino-mounted tac squad for more board coverage. This also opens up some room for maybe something in a LR proteus dedicated transport like seekers (very WS!) or breachers - I've never seen White Scars breachers but that certainly sounds like a cool modeling opportunity, and it gives you an additional scoring unit. A Sicaran Venator or Arcus could give you some nasty heavy-anti armor in the heavy slot in lieu of the Sabres. The Arcus can also cover your AA needs. Ultramarinebo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363094-white-scars-heavy-assault-list-2500pts/#findComment-5503849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramarinebo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Nice list man, Dicebod has given you some Ace ideas. I'm a big fan of your original fast Attack setup - speeders and sabres will be mad fun. The mid strength shooty output will be quite versatile and be enjoyable for you and your opponent. Going with duel Spartans is brutal, I like how you're running one as a Death Star and the other as a meat shield scoring unit. I'd definitely think carefully about how you plan to utilise your HQ. I second the idea of using a chaplain - making your 15 man tacticals fearless would be game changing. Very good point was made about not being able to sweep with your praetor, maybe he should go with the tactical squad too as a way to essentially give you two 'Death Star class' squads? I'd generally recommend a chain fist or two on your terminators. They always add huge value to the versatility of the squad. You've got a great foundation list here. The speeders, sabres and rhino marines give you a nice spread across the board while your back bone of Spartans sends the enemy packing. You're thin on scoring units, that seems to be a fairly solid weakness to your list. At 2500 I always try to squeeze a minimum of four scoring units into my armies. If they knock out your rhino marines you've got no dedicated scorers as your terminators and 15 man squad will be busy dealing with your opponent. Something to think about... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363094-white-scars-heavy-assault-list-2500pts/#findComment-5504147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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