Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 Sounds like you have solid plan in place. I've always used Master Artisan because I feel it simulated an army that focused that much more on training elite soldiers. (I just had another thought it could represent a genetic trait regarding Luck, but I don't believe in Luck so moving on). I still think the Eliminators work best as all one weapon profile and I've seen math for it, but totally respect what you're going with. I suppose the Carbine is too expensive? Definitely look forward to seeing models One issue I have, is that My Eliminator models are all equipped with the bolt snipers (because start collecting boxes are monobuild, apparently) just like my Phobos guys are all actually built as Infiltrators, and not incursors, so I don't actually have the paired knives modeled on them. That irritates me quite a bit, as I had no way to know this until I had the boxes in hand. Further irritating me is the fact that there are no transfer sheets for anyone other than ultramarines, because screw anyone that doesn't want to play smurfs... The carbine is too expensive for what I'm looking for, I don't really want my eliminators to be kiting CC units all over the table, I'd rather like to keep them away from melee units altogether, which is why I wanted to bring a more up front melee threat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5523413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Have you built the eliminators yet? I’m curious if you could use the las fusils from the eliminator box set on them? Say from someone who has 6 or 8 laying around. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5523529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 Update time! I've got a Primaris Chaplain on the way, thanks to Dracos for convincing me that Chaplains are good. I've also got one invictor built, and I'm planning to do the second one tonight. Then once my last two characters arrive, I can get to priming and painting. I've also settled on a list. Have you built the eliminators yet? I’m curious if you could use the las fusils from the eliminator box set on them? Say from someone who has 6 or 8 laying around. Yes, I have built the Eliminators. One issue is that the start collecting eliminators look to be a different sculpt than the boxed Eliminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5523542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 I've been getting help on list building from my local gaming group. I've decided to go for multiple small units of incursors so that I can fill out the battalion and get the most out of my list. It also seems to fit my fluff a bit better to have them make use of small unit tactics. Doing MSU incursors gets me more haywire mines, and it gets me some assault marines in the list, and I'm splitting up my aggressor bomb which I will move up the board 9" with SftS, and they'll be my anvil. My assault marines will use infiltrators to move as far up as they can so that I can drop a T1 charge if possible. Dracos and WAR 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5524169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 My suggestion for the jump pack Chaplain wasn't necessarily for close combat. I usually run one with the trait that lets him have 2 Litanies. The jump pack is useful for getting his buffs where I want them when I want them there. Especially useful if I want his buff on a unit that is deep striking in turn 2. Dracos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5524716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 My suggestion for the jump pack Chaplain wasn't necessarily for close combat. Fair enough. Though, that seems to be where he makes most sense. And it makes the most sense for my homebrew lore for the chaplain to be up front in CC. I usually run one with the trait that lets him have 2 Litanies. That's the strategem right? I've already got a ton of things taking up my CP, like my deployment shenanigans. The jump pack is useful for getting his buffs where I want them when I want them there. Especially useful if I want his buff on a unit that is deep striking in turn 2. That is very true, and I'll look into it. Right now my biggest thing is using shrike for my primary buffs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5525564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Ulrik trust me. After you use Master of Sanctity with Wise Orator, you'll never want to run a Chaplain any other way again, jump pack or Primaris. 2 CP and worth every penny. I think he's best used with Master of Ambush so you get his benefits from the get go. I wish Chief Librarian felt like it did as much for Librarians as MoS does for the Chappie. It would give me reason to use my Phobos Librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5525823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 Ulrik trust me. After you use Master of Sanctity with Wise Orator, you'll never want to run a Chaplain any other way again, jump pack or Primaris. 2 CP and worth every penny. I think he's best used with Master of Ambush so you get his benefits from the get go. I wish Chief Librarian felt like it did as much for Librarians as MoS does for the Chappie. It would give me reason to use my Phobos Librarian. I'm thinking that I'd maybe use The Hero of the Chapter strategem to generate the master of ambush trait on a secondary character to get stuff up the board. Meanwhile I can use shrike as my actual warlord. In which case, using a chaplain I could have my cake and eat it too... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5527360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 So I started a companion thread over in the liber astartes. I'd appreciate any input y'all might have on the lore I'm trying to craft there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5527498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Assault Intercessors and bikes for the Red Ravens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5527551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 Assault Intercessors and bikes for the Red Ravens? Assault intercessors definitely. They'd make an excellent addition to the First Company. I've never been the biggest fan of bikes for some reason. It might be worth a look for a couple of 3 man units. The Sword and Board guys (especially the Volkite Guy) look to be something that I'll want for my first company as well, as well as those gravis armor melta guys. The Whole Box looks to be like something I'd want two of. That will have to wait though. I just bought the AoS starter box and it's expansion, so I'm going to be waiting until it hits ebay in parts... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5527828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Update Time!!! King Beakie arrived and I got him built and I've started painting! I'm trying to get the stuff that I'm putting in the majority of lists painted first. Dracos, WAR and duz_ 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 The modified Redemptors look promising. Where'd you get the Venerable Dreadnought-like heads? Ulrik_Ironfist 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 The modified Redemptors look promising. Where'd you get the Venerable Dreadnought-like heads? they are from Pop goes the Monkey on shapeways Bjorn Firewalker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 The modified Redemptors look promising. Where'd you get the Venerable Dreadnought-like heads? They're actually Invictor warsuits. But yest the bits came from Pop Goes the Monkey. WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 The modified Redemptors look promising. Where'd you get the Venerable Dreadnought-like heads?They're actually Invictor warsuits. But yest the bits came from Pop Goes the Monkey.The armored cockpit looks better on the Invictors than Games Workshop's cage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 The modified Redemptors look promising. Where'd you get the Venerable Dreadnought-like heads?They're actually Invictor warsuits. But yest the bits came from Pop Goes the Monkey.The armored cockpit looks better on the Invictors than Games Workshop's cage. the cage works for some armies...raptors others not so much. Ulrik looking good so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Another Update! I did more work, and my Invictor warsuits and Battle line squads are tabletop standard+ (a wee bit extra), as well as Shrike himself being ready for war! It's late so no pictures now, I'll post another update tomorrow when I'm up to resizing images and curating my gallery. Suppressors, Aggressors, Eliminators, Phobos Librarians, Phobos Lieutenants, are next on the docket. I've decided that I want some color, so I'm going to organize units by the Codex astartes: 1st Company: (Red Arms and helmets w/silver pauldron trim) - 2 Veteran Squads (2 Vanguard) - 1 Terminator Squad (cataphractii) 2nd Company: (Gold) - 6 Tactical Squads (4 infiltrator and 2 Intercessor) - 2 Assault Squads (2 Incursor) - 2 Devastator Squads (2 Eliminator) - 2 Dreadnoughts (Invictor Warsuits) - 2 Vehicles (2 Stormtalons) 7th Company: (Purple) - 2 Tactical Squads (2 Intercessors) 8th Company: (Grey) - 2 Assault Squads (2 Riever) - 2 Assault Squads (2 Inceptor) 9th Company: (Blue) - 2 Devastator Squads (2 Aggressor) - 2 Devastator Squads (2 Suppressor) - 1 Devastator Squad (1 Hellblaster) 10th Company: (White) - 2 Scout Squads (Bolter/HB) - 2 Scout Squads (BP/CB) - 1 Scout Squads (Sniper) I'll be using the white decals to denote the battlefield role, and The left pauldron trim is the company badge, while the right (if present) will bear the chapter's secondary color (red). This is as much a painting and collecting project as much as it is a lore project and a gaming project. I want my opponent to look at my army and see that I put effort into the army. I'll never build the full chapter (probably). Lore wise, the second company is the company which I envision as being the most prestigious, the exemplars of the what the chapter is about. Swift, Silent, and Deadly. They're the raiders, and their focus on phobos armor, shows it, while their intercessors are equipped with auto bolt rifles. I would tend to want to think that each battle company would be specialized, for a particular type of special operations warfare. 1st Company - Seigebreakers (Berserkir) 2nd Company- Raiders/Asymmetric Warfare 3rd Company - Special Reconnaissance 4th Company - Air Assault/Quick Reaction Force 5th Company - Combat Engineers/Demolitions It would be a pretty cool project to build each battle company eventually, keeping to the theme for each of the battle companies. The First company would be the one that is mostly mixed old marines and primaris, with blade guard coming out now, and assault intercessors, I'm going to be taking veteran assault intercessors (as long as that stays a thing). I'm having a ton of fun with this so far, and I hope y'all are having fun wit this too! WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 As promised the Picture update! This is probably the most detailed I've been on an army in a while. A lot less models than my Imperial Guard... duz_, Dracos and Jaipii 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Yas pictures finally! :wub: Army is looking great making impressive progress! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Yas pictures finally! Some are kind of fuzzy, but I'm particularly proud of the Comm Relay half masks, the Helix Adepts, and the eyes. Army is looking great making impressive progress! You know me, I was already fast, and the airbrush makes me faster... Too bad there's not ETL this year, My goal is to have 2k painted by the end of the week, and ready to hit the table... Edited June 2, 2020 by Ulrik_Ironfist WAR and duz_ 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 looks good love the red logo it makes them pop Dracos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5533991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 looks good love the red logo it makes them pop I really liked the Red on dark grey of the Heresy Space Wolves, but I didn't want to be associated with those weirdos any longer... WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5534114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 Another Update! With Pictures! duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5534265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 ok that's pretty sweet with the red masks on the LTs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363593-ulriks-raven-guard-the-stormcrows-de-villta-vei%C3%B0in/page/3/#findComment-5534516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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