Scribe Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Unless you are 100% willing to just ignore the lore though, then as Jaxom indicated, the lore for a faction can turn you off of that faction - he indicated that was his problem. If you are deep into the lore like this is a historical game, then no, a written about (especially First Founding) Chapter can't be "your dudes" because for them to be "your dudes", you have to ignore the lore. You can't have a lore-accurate army using the wrong commander, incorrect force composition, etc. Gederas's example of "My Dudes" is a very clear illustration of this - his 5th Company is not the lore Dark Angels 5th company. Same thing for my SW Drakeslayers - they are Krom's Great Company, but they are not the lore Drakeslayers - GW can say that the Drakeslayers were wiped out to a man or ran like cowards or hid at home/were exiled/put on lockdown by the Great Wolf, and it's totally meaningless to me, my Drakeslayers are still out doing what they want (heck, I don't even use the same structure as the GW SW Chapter). That's not me being involved in the lore though - I'm clearly not following it. Well, to be fair, I'm trying to keep as close to the actual fluff as I can get.... Which is to say, there's not a whole lot. So uhh.... I kind of have to do my own thing because of it? The change to Iron Hands lore also for example prevented me from collecting them, or reading anything further written on them. Petty? Maybe. Which change? They've had like three changes to their lore, but that's because for the longest time their lore amounted to "Dead Primarch, Incredibly Emo and Angry about it" The one where they were repressing emotions and so had some weird Slaanesh lashing out experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366503-falling-out-of-love-with-a-faction/page/4/#findComment-5612581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 When i started i was introduced to the game by a black templar player back in 3rd. he suggested dark angels because of my play style. then i found out they could do themed armies in deathwing/ravenwing. Over the years i built 8 armies dabbling in things i thought looked cool. i never fell out of love for the factions, i grew out of space and time. but more importantly i fell out of love of certain editions. 6th was the break point. i stopped playing 40K until 7th and even then i focused more on my classic battletech, started armies for infinity, warmachine DUST and others. i still use index 8th for epic scale play because it was so simple. however i have fell out of love for 40K the game and the company completely with 9th. It isn't even 40K to me anymore. I still play 5th which i enjoy far more, and of course all the other games i play. so i may have lost some love, but i still put my minis to good use. I feel GW has done a very decent job in the recent years at making the tabletop reflect better the fluff behind each unit. Wow, i don't know how long you have been playing but i feel just the opposite. the best time for lore+rules was 3rd/4th and for some armies 5th. If anything they have made everything so generic the only thing i see now for marines is ultramarines that are painted blue, red, green or yellow etc.. I played in 3rd, then took a break and came back at the end of 6th edition! 3rd was most fitting to the lore imho. I was talking 8th and 9th mostly. Well, technically Codex compliant Chapters are supposed to inspire heavily from the Ultramarines tactics, with some personal quirks. Not have vastly differing doctrines like n the Heresy :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366503-falling-out-of-love-with-a-faction/page/4/#findComment-5612623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I find myself in a weird spot. For the first time in almost 30 years i am no longer a Space Marine player. I'm concerned about what GW has in store for CSM. Yeah I hear you. I am very unhappy with how the new SM's are shaping up, my SM journey feels like its about to end and I haven't even started yet. I liked overall how the 2nd SM dex was in 8th. Guess I will wait for the 2nd dex for 9th SM and only have it a year before 10th ed.... If custodes, CSM's and FW don't shape up and if I can't find a HH group either, then I might be leaving once again. Necrons will only have a 50/50 of keeping me around, them and DE are my fave Xenos, nothing else at the moment is holding my interest to start a different army otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366503-falling-out-of-love-with-a-faction/page/4/#findComment-5612660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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