Sherrypie Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 A quick gun that can run around flanking larger engines but has void shields, maybe some equipment that allows it to run without overheating as easily or some other quirk. Could also utilize weird experimental guns unlike the tested Warhound arms, like beam weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5623359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 If they had some sort of lance or chainfist weapon, it'd be interesting to see them as a CC torpedo of sorts. It'd overlap with the cerastus lancers but maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing? Having the smallest titan class as a sort of knight alternative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5623509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) I'm thinking a scout titan scale melta weapon might be neat, with basically no voidbreaking ability but a potent anti-armour ability if you can get close enough, or maybe a tremor cannon as a sort-ranged, less powerful quake cannon derivative that can still concuss and quake larger titans (can you tell there's a scout titan concept I have in the works ) Edited October 27, 2020 by Iron Hands Fanatic Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5623523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Gear wise i can see it having "snipey" laser and maybe plasma weapons as its described as a lighter recon unit as opposed to the Warhound's more aggressive recon in force. Id certainly rather have a fast sniper as a different tabletop asset rather than "knights but with void shields" and from the discussion around the Warbringer it feels like the SG design studio has been thinking similarly, building a dedicated fire support/artillery titan rather than a Reaver+ or a Warlord-. in fact i suspect all the new titans will be filling specialist niches rather than something redundant.  Sandlemad 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5623562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoon Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Concerning the Rapier and its scout role, there are several interesting things they could do with that that have nothing to do with its armament. Â It could allow for more precise indirect fire, it could give a Command roll bonus from "superior intelligence." There are huge areas of the game they haven't really touched yet. Sandlemad and Noserenda 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5623585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Concerning the Rapier and its scout role, there are several interesting things they could do with that that have nothing to do with its armament. Â It could allow for more precise indirect fire, it could give a Command roll bonus from "superior intelligence." There are huge areas of the game they haven't really touched yet. Â While those do sound super cool, they feel more in the wheelhouse of maniple bonuses rather than what's factored into each Titan's terminal - hopefully we'll see some interesting maniples combining them with each existing Titan class (I'd be interested to see how they could configure a spotter/scout role for them in concert with Warbringers without stepping on the Arcus maniple's toes) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5623588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipOffProductions Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I see the Rapier being a 360 turret for whatever weapon system you place on it, as the trade off for having only the one gun(and depending on if it'll be on a smaller base or not, removing the need for a new aiming arc template), and being even weaker then the Warhound, though I suppose that doesn't rule out the possibility of it having an option for an Ursus Claw-style harpoon weapon. Â on the subject of existing things that could be downsized for AT: Ordinatus platforms, the things are titan killers, and could serve an interesting niche of being a cheap way to bring a Warlord tier weapon in exchange for less durability. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5623765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoon Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Â on the subject of existing things that could be downsized for AT: Ordinatus platforms, the things are titan killers, and could serve an interesting niche of being a cheap way to bring a Warlord tier weapon in exchange for less durability. Â Yes, Ordinatus would seem to be an obvious and simple fit. Â Essentially a Titan-scale weapon on a non-Titan movement platform. Would love to see these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5624098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Got my copy of the book. Lots more lore than usual, very happy with that. And it’s a great book overall.  Not so happy with a single plate for Ignatum and the Warlord shown has very little resemblance to any previous image of Ignatum I’ve seen. Obviously it’s annoying that it looks nothing like my own Ignatum, but I knew that was a risk and this goes beyond that.  The fact the octagon based strips and details seem far beyond what’s achievable by us mere mortal painters. In fact a lot of the new Legio carapace plates are way too complex to be realistically achieved.  It’s good to have cool artwork and stuff to push your painting skills towards, but when most of the Legio schemes in a book are so out of reach, I personally think that’s too far.  Just my humble opinion. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5626829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Got my copy of the book. Lots more lore than usual, very happy with that. And it’s a great book overall.  Not so happy with a single plate for Ignatum and the Warlord shown has very little resemblance to any previous image of Ignatum I’ve seen. Obviously it’s annoying that it looks nothing like my own Ignatum, but I knew that was a risk and this goes beyond that.  The fact the octagon based strips and details seem far beyond what’s achievable by us mere mortal painters. In fact a lot of the new Legio carapace plates are way too complex to be realistically achieved.  It’s good to have cool artwork and stuff to push your painting skills towards, but when most of the Legio schemes in a book are so out of reach, I personally think that’s too far.  Just my humble opinion. I know where you're coming from. I had a similar experience when I saw the astronomical patterns on the Astorum Warlord in Titandeath, and then the transfers. Neither matched any previous Astorum designs, or each other!  I decided to treat this stuff as giving me options though, rather than a straightjacket. New images don't erase old ones, they just add to what you can do. For some reason, our Legios use a huge array of different kinds of insignia, and that's ok. Your engines look great but they're your engines. They aren't suddenly "wrong".  I do agree that Ignatum's patterns seem especially difficult to pull off. The regularity of the hexagons and the weird zigzag hazard stripes looks all but impossible to paint freehand. There are hexagonal spray masks available though and I've seen some used with good effect. Edited November 3, 2020 by Mandragola Noserenda, Burni, Sandlemad and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5626843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Very minor detail but I hadn't put together that the house Moritain of the florid titles was the same house Moritain mentioned in a characterful snippet about the Ashen Claws and the potential mixup between their name and "he whose claws rend all to ash", the Moritain patriarch. Nifty little callback. Â Good background throughout in general. Maybe more of a setting book in the RPG sense but still good. Edited November 3, 2020 by Sandlemad RedFurioso and Beren 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5626938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 I enjoyed the story - it flips some of the usual tropes on their head in a clearly intentional fashion, which is nice to see. RedFurioso 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5626942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Loved the planet description. I'm thinking of starting a campaign based either on the uprising in jerulas station or the assault of Urdesh with mortis as defenders Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5626986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoon Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Agree with Mandragola - the plates and illustrations are more of a guide than anything else.  So long as you keep the same basic colors and style, there's so much variation in Titan schemes that "your ability" is well within the bounds of possible.  Though I do like to be pushed to try new techniques from time to time! Burni 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5627237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 New knights are out next week from FW:   Meanwhile, Friday sees two new patterns of Questoris Knight released for Adeptus Titanicus. The Magaera is armed with the destructive lightning cannon, which can obliterate smaller targets and cause damage to larger ones thanks to the Blast and Rending traits. Its sister Knight, the Styrix, is armed with a volkite chieorovile – the perfect weapon for stripping void shields from enemy Titans. Both are armed with a Hekaton siege claw, meaning they can finish off anything that survives their deadly barrages at close range. These Knights are also equipped with ionic flare shields, giving them great protection as they quickly move into position. Any Princeps will definitely want to add a Banner of these Knights to their force. 1ncarnadine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5628994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 packs by class as expected, just remains to see how badly gouged we get on the price :DÂ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5629125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 packs by class as expected, just remains to see how badly gouged we get on the price :D Although, if the claws/lances were anything to go by, they may be just selling one pack with all weapons and heads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5629192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Concerning the Rapier and its scout role, there are several interesting things they could do with that that have nothing to do with its armament. Â It could allow for more precise indirect fire, it could give a Command roll bonus from "superior intelligence." There are huge areas of the game they haven't really touched yet. Are you thinking of a kind of marker light mechanic ? Would be a great idea imo schoon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366739-next-at-supplement-crucible-of-retribution/page/6/#findComment-5641363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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