BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Is anyone else planning to play them as well ? I think with 3W now that’ll make up for 5++ . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 I’m thinking five man squad: Sergeant - grenade harness, plasma blaster, chainfist 3x Terminator - combi-bolter, chainfist Terminator - heavy flamer, chainfist This is decent amount of dakka imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5621721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I've got a good amount of them. The reduced stat variation depresses me, but I've come to terms with it. At 3W they are beastly, and the weapon options are fun. My current thought is MSU for points reasons, but I want big squads for maximum value from strats "Fury of the First" is still a thing right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5621918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Since I need to rearm, I might use them with some count as weapons (shock, horror). Plasma Blaster is great as it's 2 powerful shots. I'd like to go Reaper Autocannons as they are basically extra powerful bolters. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5621923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Since I need to rearm, I might use them with some count as weapons (shock, horror). Plasma Blaster is great as it's 2 powerful shots. I'd like to go Reaper Autocannons as they are basically extra powerful bolters. Heretic. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5621934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) They use ancient weapons Jolemai. Mel it would be nice to get the two heavy flamers for sure. Edited October 24, 2020 by Black Blow Fly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5621946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Uh...dumb question from the old "new" guy. What are relic terminators? What's the difference between them and normal terminators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5622017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 They are a “combination” of 30k plastic terminators - Tartaros and Cataprachtii... the former had a 4++ and the latter had 6” movement. Now they lumped together with 5++ and 5” movement. The 4++ was really good so they were resilient and could provide a good fire base. Captain Idaho, Redrandy93 and Prot 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5622020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Ah! Ok. Thank you! BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5622127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorpants Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Gotta admit, haven't put mine together yet. The change to them kinda made me lose the drive to work on them. However, I'm going to be working on them today. Thinking of doing a load out very similar to black blow Fly's. That is a unit that will put in some work. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5622199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Losing access to 4++ hurt but overall the squad is better now with an extra wound and superior firepower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5622512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I think Honoured Sergeant is particularly interesting with the squad using Mastercrafted on the Plasma Blaster. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5622601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loishy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I've just started building my squad of 10 relic terminators. I think I will give them 5 or 6 power fist, 4 or 3 chainfists, one heavy flamer and one reaper autocanon. But I'm not sure about the sergeant. Power fist or chain fist ? combi Bolter, plasma blaster or Voltkite charger ? BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5624402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I guess I'm in a funk on these Terminators. I just finally, after all these years, starting painting my Cataphractii just to have them get nerfed like this. I also have the Tartaros on sprue from that very old box set (what a great deal back in the day). If I could do it over, I would probably have more claws in my Cat's, and take off chain fists. The Tartaros still sit on the sidelines. I have no idea what to do with them, or if they are worth including. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5624467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 The only nerf is 4++ to 5++... it sucks but now 5" and much more potent shooting plus still just as good in melee plus 3rd wound. I feel like the 3rd wound really help mitigates the 5++. Loishy I highly recommend the plasma blaster. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5624520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The only nerf is 4++ to 5++... it sucks but now 5" and much more potent shooting plus still just as good in melee plus 3rd wound. I feel like the 3rd wound really help mitigates the 5++. Loishy I highly recommend the plasma blaster. Maybe I'll try to fit them in again. When you say plasma blaster, that is a Tartaros only option, correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5624611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 There’s not really a Tartaros option any longer, nor Cataprachtii... you can use either or both types - they all has the same strats now, and wargear is common. what’s kind of funny I remember a thread in the Amicuss forum some members really wanted this - sure hope they are happy now. Only thing I’d like added is the option for combi weapons now like Chaos terminators have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5624631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Yes combi weapons would have been fantastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5624837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Maybe one last hurrah for Sternguard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5624857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Yeah Cataphractii Terminators with Plasma Blaster and Reaper Autocannon isn't too bad for a shooting option if you're following up a charge after. That makes them fairly dangerous. I REALLY miss the 4+ invulnerable save but the 3rd wound us still fantastic. Dropping in, shooting and then assaulting a target is special and worth doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5625592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 I went for the heavy flamer since the new range and auto hits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5625599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Yeah that's a delicious weapon. Seen flamers in action across a table and they're really useful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5625670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Makes overwatch always worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367191-relic-terminators/#findComment-5625837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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