roryokane Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Apologies if this is in the wrong place, but I’m wondering if anyone’s heard any rumours about whether GW are planning to do new SM codex supplements to mirror those of 8th edition (UM/WS/IF/IH/Rg/Sally’s)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 The current supplements(8th ed) are 9th edition compatible. It was a big announcement when the new marine book came out. AFAIK there is no talk or point in new ones, aside from saving you updating the FAQs :) roryokane and BitsHammer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 No rumours or information indicating that for now. I certainly hope GW waits at least a couple of years before throwing remade SM supplements at us. Medjugorje, Petitioner's City and BitsHammer 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Moved to the SM forum as not news or rumours - you'll find people in the know here for hopefully useful answers to your question! Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 The current supplements(8th ed) are 9th edition compatible. It was a big announcement when the new marine book came out. AFAIK there is no talk or point in new ones, aside from saving you updating the FAQs :) They are, but some of them are pretty outdated and sub par already. They definitely need an update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Yeah a ton of the new rules made the Raven Guard codex meh compared to anything coming out so far. Of course shafting all but the Big Four is nothing new for those of us not playing BA DA SW and UM. Even the “not” SM Chapters like DeathWatch are getting better treatment than an off brand Founding Chapter Yes, a bit salty at the moment. Lord Raven 19, Stupidity and Helias_Tancred 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AenarIT Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Get in line, there's plenty of factions that are barely scraping by with codices two or three years old. Marshal Loss, Detjan, Plaguecaster and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I think if they had any supplements ready for the near future they would’ve mentioned it at the same time as the other supplements. Whilst I agree that some of the supplements have been significantly reduced in effectiveness with changes in rules, unit abilities and points cost, I doubt they’ll get fixed soon. Remember that even though SM are the poster boys, GW are actually quite ok with leaving them with middling/weak rules for extended periods like most of 8th for example. I think GW will (quite rightly) prioritise armies that have been languishing for a while with outdated books, some of which were quite poor to begin with. There’s plenty of worthy candidates ready for an update even just on the imperium side, let alone chaos and Xenos factions. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Get in line, there's plenty of factions that are barely scraping by with codices two or three years old. Uncalled for, it’s a question not a demand mel_danes, Subtleknife, FelipeFlops and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roryokane Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 I guess I was just hoping for more updated fluff! But thanks for the answers so far, chaps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I’d much rather see other factions get new codices. Helias_Tancred, Plaguecaster, JimVandy85 and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) Actually I'd rather all Marines get updated first. Why should one chapter be much worse than another? They all share a main codex now. After they have been updated, GW can dedicate the next few years to other factions. Edited November 14, 2020 by Ishagu Subtleknife and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I think Marines in general fine. Other factions are more deserving seeing all the attention Marines have been receiving for quite some time now. Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Given how much the new Crusade system has been promoted in the new edition, I would expect the 8th-ed supplements to be updated sooner than later on that basis alone. Maybe late summer or fall of 2021, to go along with the last big release wave of Primaris models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I suspect that GW will eventually replace the 8th edition codex supplements for Codex: Space Marines, but that they are much lower in priority than codices for other factions. While somewhat outdated (and potentially nerfed), most of the 8th edition Codex: Space Marines codex supplements remain usable with the 9th edition Codex: Space Marines. Most other factions, meanwhile, require an overhaul to align them with the 9th edition rules (and hopefully bring them into parity in terms of balance). Kallas and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I'm sure they will all be re-done in time but ultimately, all those chapters at their core are using one of the only 9th Edition Codexes. That puts them in a far superior spot to most other factions in the game. I don't mind the supplements coming soonish as long as it's alongside Codexes for other factions, not ahead of them. Like, if Ultramarines and Tyranids both come out in March, okay, but if Ultramarines are in March and then Tyranids are waiting until November, that's not cool. Dracos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I guess I was just hoping for more updated fluff! But thanks for the answers so far, chaps! The core rulebook, in my opinion, did a great job delivering new fluff and giving an idea of the state of the galaxy. Ninth edition hasn't had a big jump like 7th to 8th or 3rd to 4th so I think most of the new fluff is going to be via Black Library and be smaller in scope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 at first there will be the BA and DA Supplement. And then the Black Templars deserve one (the first book) before any other chapter get a new book. And in addition to this, there shouldnt be new supplements before Eldar, Dark Eldar, Chaos Space Marines, Orks, Astra Militarum and Tyranids get a new book ( I forget the Tau but they could be squated in my opinion ). After this books Slave to Darkness and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 at first there will be the BA and DA Supplement. And then the Black Templars deserve one (the first book) before any other chapter get a new book. And in addition to this, there shouldnt be new supplements before Eldar, Dark Eldar, Chaos Space Marines, Orks, Astra Militarum and Tyranids get a new book ( I forget the Tau but they could be squated in my opinion ). After this books Templars do deserve a book of their own imho. After Emperors Children naturally ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I don’t think Black Templars deserve a Supplement. I think Crusading Chapters deserve a Supplement, with Black Templars being the template. Subtleknife 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 There will be nothing for crusading chapters but sure is fun to wish list. Black Templars deserve their own book . Medjugorje, Dracos and Kheotour 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I don’t think Black Templars deserve a Supplement. I think Crusading Chapters deserve a Supplement, with Black Templars being the template. "Crusading Chapters" is extremely vague and provides for a huge range of Chapters. The Crimson Fists were a crusading Chapter at one time, and they looked nothing like the Black Templars. Similarly, any number of Chapters have gone on crusades, including penitent crusades, without looking anything like the Black Templars. For example, when we first met the Relictors (properly the Fire Claws), they were on a penitent crusade. Similarly, the Executioners, Mantis Warriors, and Lamenters all went on penitent crusades after losing the Badab War, and those three Chapters are all very different from each other and the Black Templars. Realistically, you could use any codex supplement for Codex: Space Marines to create a crusading Chapter. Being a crusading Chapter doesn't mean being like the Black Templars. My money is on the Black Templars getting a codex supplement at some point. painting.for.my.sanity, Kheotour, Schlitzaf and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 The sooner the better come on geedub. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Rumour is BT book is happening. Ishagu and Kheotour 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) Rumour is BT book is happening. It's happening. And the sooner the better. GW have an opportunity to knock this out of the park with a few Primaris characters and perhaps a unique variant unit of the Assault Intercessors. Edited December 1, 2020 by Ishagu BLACK BLΠFLY and Kheotour 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367639-new-codex-sm-supplements/#findComment-5631535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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