TorvaldTheMild Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Hello brothers, I've been collecting SW's since 2nd edition and although I won't stop collecting them I feel like collecting a new chapter but can't choose between Imperial Fists, Blood Angels and Raven Guard. Help in choosing between these will earn you a glorious death in battle for the Emperor to smile at. Edited December 4, 2020 by Captain Idaho Just made the title clear from HH :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 So I guess the best place to start would be what do you want in an army? Easy to paint? Blood Angels or Raven Guard. Punchy? Blood Angels. Offensive Shooty? Imperial Fists Defensive Shooty? Raven Guard The codex has a lot of tools to go beyond that, but that's your biggest buffs sorted. Bjorn Firewalker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5639943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorvaldTheMild Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 So I guess the best place to start would be what do you want in an army? Easy to paint? Blood Angels or Raven Guard. Punchy? Blood Angels. Offensive Shooty? Imperial Fists Defensive Shooty? Raven Guard The codex has a lot of tools to go beyond that, but that's your biggest buffs sorted. For me its all lore, I don't care about the rules. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5639971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Blood Angels: Angry guys that really like stabbing things and sometimes go bonkers and think they are their Primarch. When they aren't being angry and stabbing things they like to be artistic. More humanitarian than any Chapter but the Salamanders. They REALLY like jump packs. Imperial Fists: Stubborn guys who like shooting things with bolters. A lot of bolters. When they aren't shooting things with bolters they are fond of building fortresses. Their stubbornness can be a detriment because they really don't like to retreat, even when it would be a good idea. Raven Guard: Sneaky guys who will either shoot their enemy from an unknown position or stab them from out of nowhere. They like jump packs more than anyone but the Blood Angels. More pragmatic than most Chapters and actually make a point of avoiding unnecessary casualties, both civilians and their own. Tied for humanitarianism with the Space Wolves, just behind the Blood Angels (Salamanders still hold the title). XeonDragon, ThatOneMarshal, BitsHammer and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5640106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Blood Angels: Angry guys that really like stabbing things and sometimes go bonkers and think they are their Primarch. When they aren't being angry and stabbing things they like to be artistic. More humanitarian than any Chapter but the Salamanders. They REALLY like jump packs. Imperial Fists: Stubborn guys who like shooting things with bolters. A lot of bolters. When they aren't shooting things with bolters they are fond of building fortresses. Their stubbornness can be a detriment because they really don't like to retreat, even when it would be a good idea. Raven Guard: Sneaky guys who will either shoot their enemy from an unknown position or stab them from out of nowhere. They like jump packs more than anyone but the Blood Angels. More pragmatic than most Chapters and actually make a point of avoiding unnecessary casualties, both civilians and their own. Tied for humanitarianism with the Space Wolves, just behind the Blood Angels (Salamanders still hold the title). I'd argue the Lamenters actually hold the title but keep getting snubbed because everyone hates them for being cursed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5640107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Blood Angels: Angry guys that really like stabbing things and sometimes go bonkers and think they are their Primarch. When they aren't being angry and stabbing things they like to be artistic. More humanitarian than any Chapter but the Salamanders. They REALLY like jump packs. Imperial Fists: Stubborn guys who like shooting things with bolters. A lot of bolters. When they aren't shooting things with bolters they are fond of building fortresses. Their stubbornness can be a detriment because they really don't like to retreat, even when it would be a good idea. Raven Guard: Sneaky guys who will either shoot their enemy from an unknown position or stab them from out of nowhere. They like jump packs more than anyone but the Blood Angels. More pragmatic than most Chapters and actually make a point of avoiding unnecessary casualties, both civilians and their own. Tied for humanitarianism with the Space Wolves, just behind the Blood Angels (Salamanders still hold the title). I'd argue the Lamenters actually hold the title but keep getting snubbed because everyone hates them for being cursed. Fair enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5640108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorvaldTheMild Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 I tend to want to go with the blood angels but, the fact that Sanguinius is dead and they probably won't get a Primarch unless there is some lore nonsense it makes me reticent to choose them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5641000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I wouldnt call Raven Guard defensive shoots. I’d say balanced melee smooth with surprise maneuvers XeonDragon and Shadow Captain Vyper 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5641111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Red Scorpions or Minotaurs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5641116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I tend to want to go with the blood angels but, the fact that Sanguinius is dead and they probably won't get a Primarch unless there is some lore nonsense it makes me reticent to choose them. Go with the Blood Angels if that is what your gut is saying. There are absolutely zero guarantees we will see a return of all or any the other Primarchs so with exception of Guilliman for all intents and purposes the rest are gone and dead to the Imperium. There are a stack of races awaiting codexes and new models so it's probably going to remain that way for some time yet. Ask yourself what it is that appeals to you about the Blood Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5641450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorvaldTheMild Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 I tend to want to go with the blood angels but, the fact that Sanguinius is dead and they probably won't get a Primarch unless there is some lore nonsense it makes me reticent to choose them. Go with the Blood Angels if that is what your gut is saying. There are absolutely zero guarantees we will see a return of all or any the other Primarchs so with exception of Guilliman for all intents and purposes the rest are gone and dead to the Imperium. There are a stack of races awaiting codexes and new models so it's probably going to remain that way for some time yet. Ask yourself what it is that appeals to you about the Blood Angels. Yeah I know you are right, I'll probably end up choosing blood angels, just love their look and lore and if they aren't going to release Sanguinius along with the other Primarchs I can see them just really buffing Sanguinor and saying Sanguinius' essence or something is within him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5641457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Also worth considering is the Blood Angels have units unique to them while the Fists and Raven Guard do not. tychobi 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5641529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorvaldTheMild Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Also worth considering is the Blood Angels have units unique to them while the Fists and Raven Guard do not. Yeah Death Company and Sanny Guard are really cool, also I've always loved Dante as a character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5641541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War of the Eagle Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Red Scorpions or Minotaurs. I second both these choices. I find most of the original legions a bit bland. But they are like that by design. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5645315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Nicky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 What is most important to you? The lore? the theme? their fightning stile? Do they have to be a First Founding? The Carcharodons have something similar to the Blood Angels and are a descendant from Raven Guard (or are they...) :) Magos Takatus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5645418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hello brothers, I've been collecting SW's since 2nd edition and although I won't stop collecting them I feel like collecting a new chapter but can't choose between Imperial Fists, Blood Angels and Raven Guard. Help in choosing between these will earn you a glorious death in battle for the Emperor to smile at. If you have a hard time deciding you can always simply paint up your own Chapter, create its own Lore, and then use the Blood Angel rules if you like, or switch to Imperial Fists for another game, and so on. Or even use the Successor Chapter traits. Coming up with your own Lore and paint scheme sounds like a lot of fun to me. :) Commander Nicky 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368010-advice-on-a-new-chapter/#findComment-5645672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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