Arkangilos Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Conceptually speaking, isn't that pretty much just the Mastadon? [image snipped] 40k rule of cool, but again...that front hatch is a death trap. the damn thing is already going to be receiving AT fire, now we're just going to open the front of it up so the troops inside can get caught in a fatal funnel while AT is slinging at them lol Mate... Have you read anything about the Mastodon? It's more armoured than a Land Raider on the front, even with the ramp. The vehicle was designed as a wall-breacher/mobile bunker that frontal armor doesn't do much good when the doors are wide open to disgorge troops...who will then be directly exposed to concentrated fire from the heaviest weapons available...but like i said 40k rule of cool.Once again, you're commenting on something not knowing: When the Mastodon's doors are opened, it's not taking AT fire at the opened front door, as it'd be smashed into a wall. Those meltas on the door and the big one on the top? That's not for busting armour, that's for busting walls (literally). ...and you don't think there might be enemies with AT weapons on the other side of said wall? Critical thinking is important It depends on the wall being punctured. But they won’t be ready regardless. It’s like when you breach a room. You’ve got a few seconds to get out of the fatal funnel before the enemy is able to react. Same principles. It blasts apart the wall, shoots frag grenades and smoke bombs in front of it, and opens all within a couple of seconds. That’s plenty of time for them to disembark and close. Edited December 30, 2020 by Arkangilos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Angron and a World Eaters codex. That's what I want. Either that or Angron and an updated Khorne Daemonkin codex. Actually quite surprised they dropped that. It was a good Codex, and fun to play. gaurdian31 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 tau to get beat up, and have to rely more on their auxillary races to survive. 50/50 ish forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Conceptually speaking, isn't that pretty much just the Mastadon? [image snipped] 40k rule of cool, but again...that front hatch is a death trap. the damn thing is already going to be receiving AT fire, now we're just going to open the front of it up so the troops inside can get caught in a fatal funnel while AT is slinging at them lol Mate... Have you read anything about the Mastodon? It's more armoured than a Land Raider on the front, even with the ramp. The vehicle was designed as a wall-breacher/mobile bunker that frontal armor doesn't do much good when the doors are wide open to disgorge troops...who will then be directly exposed to concentrated fire from the heaviest weapons available...but like i said 40k rule of cool.Once again, you're commenting on something not knowing: When the Mastodon's doors are opened, it's not taking AT fire at the opened front door, as it'd be smashed into a wall. Those meltas on the door and the big one on the top? That's not for busting armour, that's for busting walls (literally). ...and you don't think there might be enemies with AT weapons on the other side of said wall? Critical thinking is important It depends on the wall being punctured. But they won’t be ready regardless. It’s like when you breach a room. You’ve got a few seconds to get out of the fatal funnel before the enemy is able to react. Same principles. It blasts apart the wall, shoots frag grenades and smoke bombs in front of it, and opens all within a couple of seconds. That’s plenty of time for them to disembark and close. ...ya they won't know it's coming...not like there's people on top of the wall who can communicate to those in the Bailey directly, or warn the command center, to warn the defenders in the Bailey... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Quit dragging the thread with the mastadon @Inquisitor_Lensoven. Myself and several others have explained why it's a valid assault vehicle suited for direct breaching. You are ignoring people who are far more knowledgeable about HH era vehicles + warfare in that period. You don't know what you are talking about, just stop. WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Quit dragging the thread with the mastadon @Inquisitor_Lensoven. Myself and several others have explained why it's a valid assault vehicle suited for direct breaching. You are ignoring people who are far more knowledgeable about HH era vehicles + warfare in that period. You don't know what you are talking about, just stop.I'm just pointing out how front ramps/doors are stupid.Rule of cool yes, at all practical? No. I'm arguing with someone who knows nothing about warfare outside of 40k Cool model. Epic model. Just not practical like so much of 40k. Not sure why that's so hard for some people to accept Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Let's stop rating 40k logic on a scale of real world logic. Besides, you're opening a tank to disembark a bunch if post-human killing machines who wear armour as durable as that of a tank. Real world comparisons will always fall short. ;) Noserenda and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Play nicely or you don't get to play at all. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I'd like to sees more exploring Abaddon's equivalent of Indomitus. Cadia is gone, the rift is open, and he's got half a galaxy to conquer. Nocturne Noble, Arkangilos and Brother Kraskor 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I'd like to sees more exploring Abaddon's equivalent of Indomitus. Cadia is gone, the rift is open, and he's got half a galaxy to conquer.His Crusade also splinted off into a million directions as his allies decided to do their own thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) A second primarch come back .... The Lion Corax Russ Khan etc. Or Dorn (minus a hand), returning and seeing what he always feared: Guilliman is reshaping the Imperium to his own liking. And in response, finally undoing the injustice of the Second Founding and recalling his far-flung Chapters into a Legion again, like the Emperor decreed. Suddenly the Imperium is poised on a knife-edge! Edited January 1, 2021 by Brother Kraskor Evil Eye 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I'd like to sees more exploring Abaddon's equivalent of Indomitus. Cadia is gone, the rift is open, and he's got half a galaxy to conquer.His Crusade also splinted off into a million directions as his allies decided to do their own thing. I'd like to know more about it. What's the Ezekarion up to? Who are the crusading warlords? Who's garrisoning newly taken territories? How much of the chaos controlled areas are full on warp-drenched versus physically stable? Has the Black Legion (or other legions) taken advantage of all the fresh territory to grab more non-mutated recruitment stock? How much trouble are the Aeldari/Drukhari/Harlequins giving them? Etc. WARMASTER_ and Arkangilos 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5649869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Lore progression? I want to know a lot more about all aspects of the Eldar and what is going on with Ynnead. Having that faction as a pseudo faction is really weird to me.Agreed. When this faction dropped I considered creating an Eldar army, I love that red on them. I've never had an interest in playing Eldar, been playing since 90'.The idea of an Eldar Death Cult, embracing their tragic existence bringing converts in from all the other factions. So good. Also the 3 pack of minis is incredible. Edited January 2, 2021 by mel_danes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368034-what-lore-progression-would-you-like-to-see/page/10/#findComment-5650094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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