L30n1d4s Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 With all the new tools from the Supplement, it looks like a RW character with the Reliquary of the Repentant, plus fully buffed Eradicators can drop Mortarion in a single shooting phase. First, RW Character races up to within 3" of Mortarion (he can turbo-boost and also use the Strat for double move, so guaranteed 32" move), reducing his Invul to a 5++. Next, power up the 6 Eradicators with +1 to hit (RW Land Speeder "paints" Mortarion with the Strat for +1 to hit), rerolls of 1s to hit/to wound (Capt and Lt auras), and +1 to wound (Chaplain Litany for nearest target). That's 12 shots, 11-12 hits, 9-10 wounds, 6-7 failed 5++ saves, and 27-28 average Dmg after -1 Dmg from Disgustingly Resilient is accounted for. With average rolling, Mortarion's 5+++ FNP drops the damage down to 18-19 damage inflicted which, coincidentally, is exactly enough to kill him. Of course, this Strat requires multiple character buffs to the Eradicators and also putting a RW character on a "suicide mission" near enemy lines, but on the other hand, reliably dropping almost 500 points of enemy combat power/warlord/ buffing capacity on turn 1 is probably worth the risk (not to mention the psychological impact on your opponent when his Primarch gets "one shotted" out the gate). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368833-looks-like-da-have-a-great-answer-for-mortarion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarisqc Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 This will not work, Mortarion cancel the Reliquary aura with living plague, you need to add a Librarian to cancel the aura of mortarion that cancel aura in a 3'' radius for this strat to work. On a side note, DA have multiple way to hurt Mortarion and are probably the best armies to take him down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368833-looks-like-da-have-a-great-answer-for-mortarion/#findComment-5662614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) Actually, it is not an aura (though it behaves like one), so it is not affected by Mortarion's anti-auras WL Trait. See 25:34 --- https://youtu.be/YHrsNllS6SI Reliquary does not have the "Aura" key word (like all other things that are auras have in 9th edition). Edited February 1, 2021 by L30n1d4s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368833-looks-like-da-have-a-great-answer-for-mortarion/#findComment-5662617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarisqc Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 My bad, your right, now who's the best ravenwing character for the job... Primaris Chaplain on bike with Stubborn tenacity warlord trait are a good choice. He can do the buff to the range unit and move to be in position, may even charge something it you don't need the extra move strat. The T5 and 7w with 4++ will be hard to take out and if he can charge, will be able to move out of combat with Swift strike stratagem for 14-17'' (+3'' if in dev doctrine). If he can't charge, he's not easy to kill with the 4++ in melee and he can fight back even if kill. For a crazy combo, add a full bike squad to add 4 melta shot in close range to be extra safe and to protect your chaplain. If from a 2nd company they are objective secure and this will put lots of presure on your opponent that was thinking the front/flank was safe with Mortarion when he die and is replace by a full squad of objsec Ravenwing bike and Chaplain. 700 is not alot to take out Mortarion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368833-looks-like-da-have-a-great-answer-for-mortarion/#findComment-5662683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) My bad, your right, now who's the best ravenwing character for the job... Primaris Chaplain on bike with Stubborn tenacity warlord trait are a good choice. He can do the buff to the range unit and move to be in position, may even charge something it you don't need the extra move strat. The T5 and 7w with 4++ will be hard to take out and if he can charge, will be able to move out of combat with Swift strike stratagem for 14-17'' (+3'' if in dev doctrine). If he can't charge, he's not easy to kill with the 4++ in melee and he can fight back even if kill. For a crazy combo, add a full bike squad to add 4 melta shot in close range to be extra safe and to protect your chaplain. If from a 2nd company they are objective secure and this will put lots of presure on your opponent that was thinking the front/flank was safe with Mortarion when he die and is replace by a full squad of objsec Ravenwing bike and Chaplain. 700 is not alot to take out Mortarion. What about a Talonmaster, so it gives that +1 to hit himself? Edit: Thalonmasters can't use the eye, duh Edited February 1, 2021 by Brother Ramael Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368833-looks-like-da-have-a-great-answer-for-mortarion/#findComment-5662690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkinstein Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 My bad, your right, now who's the best ravenwing character for the job... Primaris Chaplain on bike with Stubborn tenacity warlord trait are a good choice. He can do the buff to the range unit and move to be in position, may even charge something it you don't need the extra move strat. The T5 and 7w with 4++ will be hard to take out and if he can charge, will be able to move out of combat with Swift strike stratagem for 14-17'' (+3'' if in dev doctrine). If he can't charge, he's not easy to kill with the 4++ in melee and he can fight back even if kill. For a crazy combo, add a full bike squad to add 4 melta shot in close range to be extra safe and to protect your chaplain. If from a 2nd company they are objective secure and this will put lots of presure on your opponent that was thinking the front/flank was safe with Mortarion when he die and is replace by a full squad of objsec Ravenwing bike and Chaplain. 700 is not alot to take out Mortarion. What about a Talonmaster, so it gives that +1 to hit himself?Edit: Thalonmasters can't use the eye, duh Talonmaster can't take Reliquary of the Repentant either. It's bike model only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368833-looks-like-da-have-a-great-answer-for-mortarion/#findComment-5662709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 My bad, your right, now who's the best ravenwing character for the job... Primaris Chaplain on bike with Stubborn tenacity warlord trait are a good choice. He can do the buff to the range unit and move to be in position, may even charge something it you don't need the extra move strat. The T5 and 7w with 4++ will be hard to take out and if he can charge, will be able to move out of combat with Swift strike stratagem for 14-17'' (+3'' if in dev doctrine). If he can't charge, he's not easy to kill with the 4++ in melee and he can fight back even if kill. For a crazy combo, add a full bike squad to add 4 melta shot in close range to be extra safe and to protect your chaplain. If from a 2nd company they are objective secure and this will put lots of presure on your opponent that was thinking the front/flank was safe with Mortarion when he die and is replace by a full squad of objsec Ravenwing bike and Chaplain. 700 is not alot to take out Mortarion. What about a Talonmaster, so it gives that +1 to hit himself?Edit: Thalonmasters can't use the eye, duh Talonmaster can't take Reliquary of the Repentant either. It's bike model only. Yeah I meant the reliquiary Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368833-looks-like-da-have-a-great-answer-for-mortarion/#findComment-5662715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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