The Pounder Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Ok guys, I’m trying to plan a list to build to. The theme is an Artillery Company of the 3rd Siege Regiment. This list is all the models I currently have (though I don’t have all the Infantry Squads) I already own the rest but need to paint them. I’d like it to be fun and make for some interesting games. I think I have a bit of everything. Here’s the list: ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [85 PL, 1,654pts, 12CP] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Gametype: Matched Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + HQ + Death Korps Marshal [2 PL, 35pts]: Laspistol, Power sword, Warlord Death Rider Squadron Commander [3 PL, 45pts]: Laspistol, Power sword + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword + Elites + Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 73pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 5x Combat Engineers: 5x Engineer shotgun, 5x Frag & Krak grenades, 5x Gas bombs . Engineer Weapons Team Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 56pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 6x Combat Engineers: 6x Engineer shotgun, 6x Frag & Krak grenades, 6x Gas bombs Command Squad [2 PL, 30pts] . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran w/ Regimental Standard: Lasgun, Regimental Standard + Fast Attack + Death Rider Squadron [3 PL, 75pts] . 4x Death Korps Death Riders: 4x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Laspistol, 4x Savage claws . Ridemaster: Death Rider Hunting Lance, Laspistol Death Rider Squadron [3 PL, 75pts] . 4x Death Korps Death Riders: 4x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Laspistol, 4x Savage claws . Ridemaster: Death Rider Hunting Lance, Laspistol + Heavy Support + Earthshaker Carriage Battery [18 PL, 360pts]: Earthshaker Carriage, Earthshaker Carriage, Earthshaker Carriage Heavy Mortar Battery [12 PL, 210pts]: Heavy Mortar, Heavy Mortar, Heavy Mortar Medusa Carriage Battery [18 PL, 360pts]: Medusa Carriage, Medusa Carriage, Medusa Carriage + Dedicated Transport + Hades Breaching Drill [4 PL, 80pts] ++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [17 PL, 345pts, -3CP] ++ + Configuration + Detachment Command Cost [-3CP] Regimental Doctrine + Lord of War + Macharius Vanquisher [17 PL, 345pts]: 2 Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubber, Hull-down Deployment ++ Total: [102 PL, 1,999pts, 9CP] ++ Created with BattleScribe The only models I’m wedded to are the Earthshaker Carriages, Medusa Carriages and the Mecharius Vanquisher. My only caveat is that I want the whole force to be Death Korps of Krieg. So please can anyone in the know give me some tips? duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Looks pretty solid, perhaps a bit light on infantry for such a force. I would potentially just take one full engineer squad so that you drill can deliver the maximum possible number of them. Similarly, having used Death Riders quite a bit, I would potentially go with one full unit as opposed to two small ones. They don't do much damage, but are very hard to shift, bringing the unit up to full will make that more of a headache. Alternatively you could go with one Rider Vet squad and one regular squad of 6 with the models. The Vets have more damage output and are small enough to be able to outflank in small gaps. The Command Squad is probably the one thing that's least useful. Morale is not a huge deal for DK and the 6" bubble won't actually reach a lot of your units as you'll need to spread them out for screening and objectives. You could consider putting the special weapons in there and reserving them. The Pounder and duz_ 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/#findComment-5668275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Thanks sairence, I think you’re right, I need more Infantry. I’ll drop the command squad and the extra Engineers for another squad. Moving forward I think I might drop the Heavy Mortars in favour of more Infantry. I’ll leave them in for now as I want to get this army on the table! Thanks again. duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/#findComment-5668406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Ok, I’ve had a play about with my list and have come up with this: ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [47 PL, 900pts, 12CP] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + HQ + Death Korps Marshal [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword, Warlord Death Rider Squadron Commander [3 PL, 45pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword + Elites + Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 80pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 9x Combat Engineers: 9x Engineer shotgun, 9x Frag & Krak grenades, 9x Gas bombs Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 65pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 4x Combat Engineers: 4x Engineer shotgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Gas bombs . Engineer Weapons Team + Fast Attack + Death Rider Command Squadron [3 PL, 60pts] . 4x Death Rider Veterans: 4x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 4x Laspistol, 4x Savage claws + Heavy Support + Heavy Mortar Battery [4 PL, 70pts]: Heavy Mortar Heavy Mortar Battery [4 PL, 70pts]: Heavy Mortar Heavy Mortar Battery [4 PL, 70pts]: Heavy Mortar + Dedicated Transport + Hades Breaching Drill [4 PL, 80pts] ++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [38 PL, 755pts, -3CP] ++ + Configuration + Detachment Command Cost [-3CP] Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + HQ + Death Korps Marshal [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword + Heavy Support + Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage ++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [17 PL, 345pts, -3CP] ++ + Configuration + Detachment Command Cost [-3CP] Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + Lord of War + Macharius Vanquisher [17 PL, 345pts]: 2 Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubber ++ Total: [102 PL, 2,000pts, 6CP] ++ Created with BattleScribe I think this will be the list I build to as I have most of the models for it. I have included a Spearhead detachment. I did this as I wanted to include all my artillery as single units so I can deploy them individually rather than in batteries. Plus I reasoned that another Marshal would be handy for orders. Do I need to do this? Or can I deploy them as single models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/#findComment-5691069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Well I think the silence said it all on my last attempt at a list! The list above is basically there for me to get my Krieg on the table as I already have most of the models for it. Now the list that follows is my attempt at a more competitive force. ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [58 PL, 1,115pts, 12CP] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + HQ + Death Korps Marshal [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword, Warlord Death Rider Squadron Commander [3 PL, 45pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword + Elites + Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 80pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 9x Combat Engineers: 9x Engineer shotgun, 9x Frag & Krak grenades, 9x Gas bombs Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 65pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 4x Combat Engineers: 4x Engineer shotgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Gas bombs . Engineer Weapons Team Command Squad [2 PL, 45pts] . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun Command Squad [2 PL, 45pts] . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran: Lasgun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun Platoon Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Laspistol, Power sword Platoon Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Laspistol, Power sword + Fast Attack + Death Rider Command Squadron [3 PL, 60pts] . 4x Death Rider Veterans: 4x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 4x Laspistol, 4x Savage claws Death Rider Squadron [6 PL, 105pts] . 6x Death Korps Death Riders: 6x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 6x Frag & Krak grenades, 6x Laspistol, 6x Savage claws . Ridemaster: Bolt pistol, Death Rider Hunting Lance Death Rider Squadron [6 PL, 105pts] . 6x Death Korps Death Riders: 6x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 6x Frag & Krak grenades, 6x Laspistol, 6x Savage claws . Ridemaster: Bolt pistol, Death Rider Hunting Lance + Dedicated Transport + Hades Breaching Drill [4 PL, 80pts] ++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [44 PL, 885pts, -3CP] ++ + Configuration + Detachment Command Cost [-3CP] Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + HQ + Death Korps Marshal [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword + Heavy Support + Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage ++ Total: [102 PL, 2,000pts, 9CP] ++ As you can see I’ve dropped the Heavy Mortars and the Macharius Vanquisher. I felt that the pts spent on those 2 units would be better spent on more boots on the ground plus some more Deathriders. I included 2 Platoon Commanders plus the Command Squads to go alongside them. I figured I’d need more orders given the larger number of troops. All in all I think I’ve covered all the bases with my favourite models plus a more efficient build. So what do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/#findComment-5697780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commisar Necros Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I really like your last list, but I'm sad to see the Macharius go, its a cool ass model. Having a Baneblade, I get its just too expensive to use most the time though. Same with the heavy mortars, they just seem too expensive for what they do. Ive been looking at a similar list, but I don't wanna commit to making rough riders until i know they're sticking around. Keeping all the carriages in separate choices will help with deployment too I think. The one weakness i see is some long range anti-tank. The Basilisk is good at it, but will prob be better spent killing infantry. The Vanquisher would nicely fit this slot. Maybe if you upgrade to a 3k list add that back in! I also don't see any psykers, so maybe swap a command squad for an astropath or a primaris? The deny can be pretty useful in the few games Ive ran up against psykers. The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/#findComment-5700154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Thanks for the advice Commisar Necros! It does seem a shame to drop the Heavy Mortars and Macharius Vanquisher but I feel the added troops will be more useful. I’m hoping the Medusa Carriages will help with the antitank ranged firepower. It’ll take me a long time to build this list but I thought it best to have a plan! Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/#findComment-5702705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 I’ve had a play with my 2k list and added new units I’ve received at Christmas. I’m really happy with what I have and have made a list to incorporate my favourite units: ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [60 PL, 1,244pts, 12CP] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + HQ + Death Korps Marshal [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword, Relic: Kurov's Aquila, Warlord Death Rider Squadron Commander [3 PL, 45pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 65pts] . 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 70pts] . 7x Guardsman: 7x Lasgun . Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon . Sergeant: Laspistol, Power sword + Elites + Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 56pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 6x Combat Engineers: 6x Engineer shotgun, 6x Frag & Krak grenades, 6x Gas bombs Combat Engineer Squad [4 PL, 56pts]: Engineer Watch Master . 6x Combat Engineers: 6x Engineer shotgun, 6x Frag & Krak grenades, 6x Gas bombs Death Rider Command Squadron [3 PL, 85pts] . 4x Death Rider Veterans: 4x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 4x Laspistol, 4x Savage claws Platoon Commander [2 PL, 32pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword + Fast Attack + Death Rider Squadron [6 PL, 160pts] . 7x Death Korps Death Riders: 7x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 7x Frag & Krak grenades, 7x Laspistol, 7x Savage claws . Ridemaster: Death Rider Hunting Lance, Laspistol Death Rider Squadron [6 PL, 160pts] . 7x Death Korps Death Riders: 7x Death Rider Hunting Lance, 7x Frag & Krak grenades, 7x Laspistol, 7x Savage claws . Ridemaster: Death Rider Hunting Lance, Laspistol + Heavy Support + Heavy Mortar Battery [4 PL, 70pts]: Heavy Mortar Heavy Mortar Battery [4 PL, 70pts]: Heavy Mortar + Dedicated Transport + Hades Breaching Drill [4 PL, 80pts] ++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Death Korps of Krieg) [38 PL, 755pts, -3CP] ++ + Configuration + Detachment Command Cost [-3CP] Regimental Doctrine: Death Korps of Krieg + HQ + Death Korps Marshal [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword + Heavy Support + Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Earthshaker Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Earthshaker Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage Medusa Carriage Battery [6 PL, 120pts]: Medusa Carriage ++ Total: [98 PL, 1,999pts, 9CP] ++ I’m really happy with this list and hope to have some success with it! Any improvements? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368997-death-korps-of-krieg-3rd-siege-regiment-2k-list/#findComment-5775966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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