Noserenda Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Which Legions though? Im pretty certain they wont do all remaining legions in one go and we can probably rule out Fists and Alphas as they just got a focus (Shame as im sure the XXth would do something convoluted) and a few Legions already have rules as noted above (plus the Wordbearers).White scars, World Eaters and Ultramarines have had a bit of development without rules so far, anyone I missed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Is it weird that I'm a bit disappointed by the Dispatch? Maybe it's because I play BA and we already have special Destroyers. Or maybe because it involves a pre-existing unit. Or maybe all the rumors got my expectations up. Probably all of the above Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Is it weird that I'm a bit disappointed by the Dispatch? Maybe it's because I play BA and we already have special Destroyers. Or maybe because it involves a pre-existing unit. Or maybe all the rumors got my expectations up. Probably all of the above Just wait and see. We don't know what's coming. It could be a generic thing where it explains who gets what or it could be "And this week: UM Destroyers!". At the moment it is a little bit vague what they said about it. Cris R 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Going to make the prediction that, instead of a whole new unit for each legion, this will feature updated rules for Destroyers and then a list of special rules / equipment that is legion specific, the same way that the Legion Praevian Consul rules do for Battle-Automata. LameBeard, WrathOfTheLion, Noserenda and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Yeah maybe they just ripped a load of ideas from this very forum about how to make Destroyers great again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Destroyers are already great. They weren't for a while but the FAQ definitely fixed a lot of the problem. Brofist and LameBeard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Yeah I was just enjoying the cliche. The other threads I was referring to have discussed mostly why the destroyers with all their “proscribed weaponry” are rocking dual bolt pistols (looks cool, but nothing that really screams xenocide actions). They get rad grenades and a bit of phosphex I guess, but there is still potential to do a bit more with them - I was thinking Mournival style “destroyer support squads” but if they have some legion-specific ideas, that sounds interesting too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Plasma hand flamer versions of the interemptor guns, it must be done! LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Looks like the Lightning has completely vanished? Link is dead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Looks like the Lightning has completely vanished? Link is dead. Yeah, I actually need to pick one up to complete (finally) my XIII Legion list and saw this yesterday. Still assuming it is part of the general restock / recode that is going on, but am a little concerned that it has simply vanished, rather than sitting in the 'Sold Out' phase that all the other kits undergoing recoding have done recently... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Looks like the Lightning has completely vanished? Link is dead. The Spartan lobby clearly showed its hand here Scammel and Astartes Consul 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwrath121 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 It's still visible and in stock on the Irish FW page, so it's possibly a weird hiccup either way. Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I'm very excited, I already really like the basic destroyer rules and can't wait to see the extra variety this adds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Excited for whatever form these rules may take, but disappointed that this was the legion dispatch for the month. SkimaskMohawk, 1ncarnadine, WrathOfTheLion and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Hoping we get an official Rite of War than enables a full Destroyer company (like a Moritat unlocking Destroyers as Troops etc.), as that would be wonderfully thematic for certain Legions and build on the community support. I think I’ve used Destroyers perhaps once or twice ever, so it’d be nice to fit them in again! Noserenda and Doctor Perils 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Going to make the prediction that, instead of a whole new unit for each legion, this will feature updated rules for Destroyers and then a list of special rules / equipment that is legion specific, the same way that the Legion Praevian Consul rules do for Battle-Automata. I hope they don't cherry pick legions like they did with the Praevian. Its a slippery slope for design and one of the reasons I don't really like the direction of Mournival units. If they give them something like vet troops options that would be gravy imo Noserenda, Astartes Consul, MegaVolt87 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Hoping we get an official Rite of War than enables a full Destroyer companyThat hope is futile. They talked about units only. But we'll see. Praevian style list of what each legion has sounds more likely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I wonder if it'll be for just one legion. Maybe Ultras, seeing as they had that bit of artwork. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Going to make the prediction that, instead of a whole new unit for each legion, this will feature updated rules for Destroyers and then a list of special rules / equipment that is legion specific, the same way that the Legion Praevian Consul rules do for Battle-Automata. I hope they don't cherry pick legions like they did with the Praevian. Its a slippery slope for design and one of the reasons I don't really like the direction of Mournival units. If they give them something like vet troops options that would be gravy imo They ended up giving all the Legion's special rules for Praevians in the last (lol) FAQ though - so hopefully that won't happen. Hoping we get an official Rite of War than enables a full Destroyer companyThat hope is futile.They talked about units only. But we'll see. Praevian style list of what each legion has sounds more likely. While I doubt they're going to drop a new RoW in a free campaign supplement, I think we'll get a RoW for Destroyer Companies / Formations the next time they update all the RoWs or do a new Black Book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'd love an Ultramarines Destroyer themed army. The relationship between Destroyers and their Primarch was strained somewhat and the idea they're the unwanted child but have a necessity at times is pretty cool. Astartes Consul and Hungry Nostraman Lizard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'd love an Ultramarines Destroyer themed army. The relationship between Destroyers and their Primarch was strained somewhat and the idea they're the unwanted child but have a necessity at times is pretty cool. And honestly, the nemesis chapter had some awesome fluff in Tempest. Iirc there was a thread where someone basically made them with some great modelling and narrative, but it was left for a long time. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'd be 100% down for certain legions to get a RoW for making Destroyers a troop choice, on top of the legion-specific Destroyer units. Ultramarines and Death Guard in particular. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 It will be good to have the Destroyer kit without jump packs back, although why it's gone is baffling to me. They got rid of that kit just months before releasing a RoW for the 1st Legion, where your troops are Destroyers that can't have jump packs... Brother Sutek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Hoping we get an official Rite of War than enables a full Destroyer companyThat hope is futile.They talked about units only. But we'll see. Praevian style list of what each legion has sounds more likely. I know, but I can but hope . Definitely made me think of Distant Echoes of Old Night and how I’d really like to have a dedicated Death Guard company for that purpose. Be wonderful for narrative games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 It'll be interesting to see what they do with Blackshield Destroyer units. There's a lot of narrative potential to make them play differently depending on the reasons they struck out on their own and how they engage in the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/51/#findComment-5744948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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