RoadRunna Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 You may have noticed that in these 2 recent FW publications that it is the armies that are present in the Siege of Terror that are getting the new units. Neither the AL (in any numbers that count) nor UM were at the Siege whereas both the IF and NL were. Interesting to see if this trend continues with future releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Seeing as they've only confirmed three of these mission packs (I think?) and that we know new Destroyer rules are set to be included in the next one, I'm guessing any Sanguinary Guard rules are a while off yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Dont most legion specific Terminator Units have a designated armour in their profile? The only exeptions in the Red Book are Iron Hands Gorgons, which have their own rules and Deathshroud Terminators. Only in the Deathshroud entry is Legion Terminator Armour listed and you are free to choose. All other entries state either Cataphractii or Tartaros. WE have seen 2 new Legion specific Terminator units and both follow the same pattern. You'd be surprised since the Contekar also fall into having just 'Terminator Armor' meaning the person modelling them can choose which suit they want. Similarly, the old Istvaan Campaign Legions book that I have has Phoenix Guard Terminators listed with 'Terminator Armor' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 It's not immediately a Legion Terminator unit, but Deathwing Companions take the Terminator armour of whomever they're assigned to (if they have Terminator armour), so they have a bit of flexibility to them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) You'd be surprised since the Contekar also fall into having just 'Terminator Armor' meaning the person modelling them can choose which suit they want. Similarly, the old Istvaan Campaign Legions book that I have has Phoenix Guard Terminators listed with 'Terminator Armor' The latest Red Book has Phoenix Terminators locked as Tartaros Terminators. Including Huscarls and the Atramantar we have 19 Legion Terminator Squads and only 3 are completly free to choose their armour variant while 2 are a bit limited. So its nearly 3 to 1 with fixed armour variants at this moment. Cataphractii: Space Wolves Varagyr Blood Angels CrimsonPaladines Dark Angels Inner Circle Knights Iron Warriors Tyrant Siege Terminators World Eaters Red Butchers Ultramarines Fulmentarus Death Guard Grave Wardens Sonbs of Horus Justarin Salamanders Fire Drakes Alpha Legion Learnan Imperial Fist Huscarls Tartaros Emperor's Children Phoenix Terminators Night Lords Atramantar Special Iron Hands Gorgons Free to choose White Scars Ebon Keshig Death Guard Deathshroud Night Lords Contekar Limited Options Thousand Sons Sekmet either Cataphractii or Tartaros Dark Angels Deathwing armour variant as Preator Sources latest Red Book Legion Astartes and Black Book 7, 8 and 9 So we are at 14 Legion Terminator Squads that are locked in their armour variant and 5 that have a choice. If you look closer those Nightlords and Deathguard have 1 Squad locked with their Armour and 1 that can choose while Dark Angels have 1 locked and one which is dependend on their Preator. I think its possible an emerging pattern, you get one sort of Legion Terminators with fixed armour and one where you can choose for conversions etc. Edit: Special Terminator Units not Legion Specific: Nullificators are locked in Cataphractii Edited October 6, 2021 by Bung MegaVolt87 and Cris R 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) You'd be surprised since the Contekar also fall into having just 'Terminator Armor' meaning the person modelling them can choose which suit they want. Similarly, the old Istvaan Campaign Legions book that I have has Phoenix Guard Terminators listed with 'Terminator Armor' The latest Red Book has Phoenix Terminators locked as Tartaros Terminators. Including Huscarls and the Atramantar we have 19 Legion Terminator Squads and only 3 are completly free to choose their armour variant while 2 are a bit limited. So its nearly 3 to 1 with fixed armour variants at this moment. Cataphractii: Space Wolves Varagyr Blood Angels CrimsonPaladines Dark Angels Inner Circle Knights Iron Warriors Tyrant Siege Terminators World Eaters Red Butchers Ultramarines Fulmentarus Death Guard Grave Wardens Sonbs of Horus Justarin Salamanders Fire Drakes Alpha Legion Learnan Imperial Fist Huscarls Night Lords Atramantar Tartaros Emperor's Children Phoenix Terminators Special Iron Hands Gorgons Free to choose White Scars Ebon Keshig Death Guard Deathshroud Night Lords Contekar Limited Options Thousand Sons Sekmet either Cataphractii or Tartaros Dark Angels Deathwing armour variant as Preator Sources latest Red Book Legion Astartes and Black Book 7, 8 and 9 So we are at 14 Legion Terminator Squads that are looked in their armour variant and 5 that have a choice. If you look closer those Nightlords and Deathguard have 1 Squad locked with their Armour and 1 that can choose while Dark Angels have 1 locked and one which is dependend on their Preator. I think its possible an emerging pattern, you get one sort of Legion Terminators with fixed armour and one where you can choose for conversions etc. One minor edit: the NL Atramantar are Tartaros units. Otherwise, this is a really useful list. It's likely Blood Angels will get the Sanguinary Guard rules but I'd love to have another option for a Blood Angels Terminator unit to get out of the morass known as the Crimson Paladins. Also reading the supplement's description of how the studio staff assembled the Atramantar harkens nicely back to the kit bashing articles that we've seen in White Dwarf over the years. Edited October 6, 2021 by Cris R WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 One minor edit: the NL Atramantar are Tartaros units. Otherwise, this is a really useful list. It's likely Blood Angels will get the Sanguinary Guard rules but I'd love to have another option for a Blood Angels Terminator unit to get out of the morass known as the Crimson Paladins. Also reading the supplement's description of how the studio staff assembled the Atramantar harkens nicely back to the kit bashing articles that we've seen in White Dwarf over the years. Thank you. I fixed the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Surprise Legion Dispatch! Remus Ventanus is here! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/07/remus-ventanus-is-here-to-save-calth-with-maximum-panache/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=Facebook&utm_term=LegionDispatch071021&utm_content=LegionDispatch071021&fbclid=IwAR1edDoW1ge7nS4dw3BABobfwh1RKGn8lK_v8Gx2KmuCt8CoBNClhvwBEbs Loquille, Cris R, Grim Dog Studios and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 This is the first newer release where I think the studio paint job is meh. I read Ventanus and I expect bloodied, war-torn, but unbowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 That bare head is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) Are they picking up the pace with their releases? It's almost like they are setting the stage for something special! :-) Love the helmeted one! Edited October 7, 2021 by derLumpi Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Astartes Consul 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Bare head might be a case of the Uriel Ventris, absolutely destroyed by the paint job. Either way, the helmet is really cool so I doubt many people will care. Continued pace & content of previews and releases just has me further convinced that the next Black Book will feature the Shadow Crusade OR if GW move away from the Black Book format, the next one was planned to be Shadow Crusade focused and they've obviously still got the models to release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyVT Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 New Black Templars or wait for this new 30k box set. . .hmmm, how about BOTH! I really just want the Black Templars army box plus 1 of each of the new minis (characters and sword brethren). . . for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) If I would have to choose between HH or new Primaris marines the HH stuff will win hands down! :-D Edited October 7, 2021 by derLumpi Corswain and betrayer41 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Well it's a significant improvement over that limited edition model that came out a few years ago. The one that was but wasn't Ventris. Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Well it's a significant improvement over that limited edition model that came out a few years ago. The one that was but wasn't Ventris. TBF I never used that model for Heresy, I just remodeled it into Lias Issodon. I do wish they still made that though, it was a lovely sculpt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 TBF I never used that model for Heresy, I just remodeled it into Lias Issodon. I do wish they still made that though, it was a lovely sculpt. I thought it was terrible but I never got to see it in person - makes a world of difference on some models. Firenze 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) I like the model but I'm really not sold on the pose. I was hoping for a more actiony pose with him spearing the banner through a Word Bearer with his sword drawn like he did in Know-No-Fear. Edited October 7, 2021 by No Foes Remain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) Jeah cool model and highly deserved for the character. Tad heavy on the skulls for my taste though. I was gonna get in on the BT launchbox but the pricepoint of 150€ kinda killed it for me. Ill get a squad and a Charakter here and there as a palate cleanser from painting fists/lunar auxilia from time to time since I still have a sizeable black templars army. Edited October 7, 2021 by Marshal Vespasian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I like the model but I'm really not sold on the pose. I was hoping for a more actiony pose with him spearing the banner through a Word Bearer with his sword drawn like he did in Know-No-Fear. That's just a bigger base and a conversion away. Dark Legionnare 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 So there is the event this weekend. Someone going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 So there is the event this weekend. Someone going? Heres hoping they announce something at this event!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I hope so too. But I'm not holding my breath. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 SoH Praetor to be released this upcoming Friday, along with a rerelease of Destroyers without a jump pack. Very cool to see destroyers back, need them for my 1st Legion for Dreadwing. Although I have had fun converting them from Mk III despoiler squads, it'll be simply less expensive to just get some Mk IV ones as the standard kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 So two new release? Nice. Guess, I will get some Destroyers. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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