Necronaut Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Capital Idea! What about Combi-weapons for cheap firepower and some utility? Thoughts? Yes, a combi-plas or combi-melta or two (or one of each or whatever) would not be an awful idea. I have long wanted to use a meltagun in-game in Deathwatch or Black Crusade, but I always find myself going back to good old, reliable (haha) plasma (3rd degree burns sold separately) for flexibility, armor pen and range. Maybe one of these days I'll just man up and go for it (melta, that is). Edit: One thing I'm unsure of with regard to using combi-weapons in Deathwatch: when you acquire a combi-weapon, does the combi-part come with multiple reloads, or is it written somewhere that you only get 1x plasma or melta or flame shot per adventure or requisition event? Edited April 4, 2022 by Necronaut Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Capital Idea! What about Combi-weapons for cheap firepower and some utility? Thoughts? Yes, a combi-plas or combi-melta or two (or one of each or whatever) would not be an awful idea. I have long wanted to use a meltagun in-game in Deathwatch or Black Crusade, but I always find myself going back to good old, reliable (haha) plasma (3rd degree burns sold separately) for flexibility, armor pen and range. Maybe one of these days I'll just man up and go for it (melta, that is). Edit: One thing I'm unsure of with regard to using combi-weapons in Deathwatch: when you acquire a combi-weapon, does the combi-part come with multiple reloads, or is it written somewhere that you only get 1x plasma or melta or flame shot per adventure or requisition event? They're probably only one use per adventure. Unless you're a Techmarine, of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Edit: One thing I'm unsure of with regard to using combi-weapons in Deathwatch: when you acquire a combi-weapon, does the combi-part come with multiple reloads, or is it written somewhere that you only get 1x plasma or melta or flame shot per adventure or requisition event? Not wanting to put words into the GM's mouth, but the special weapon part of the combi-weapon functions exactly like the standard special weapon, but only has Magazine/Clip: 1, so for the Plasma gun, you couldn't Semi-Auto 2, but you can fire 1 shot on Maximal. Derp! ;p You should have availability of as many reloads as you do the bolter, as the Combi-bolter itself should come with sufficient supplies of ammunition (unless the GM rules otherwise, or specifies Rule of Three). They're probably only one use per adventure. You can reload them. Just takes a while. Edited April 4, 2022 by Mazer Rackham Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 @Mazer: thanks, mate! I was pretty sure that was the case, but I figured I'd post it in here for confirmation anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) No worries. EDIT: Actually scratch that on Maximal combi-plasma, you can't do it as it uses 4 shots, and the combi-plasma clip is only 1. D'oh! So the best bets are Combi-melta, Combi-flamer or Combi-Grenade Launcher. Edited April 4, 2022 by Mazer Rackham Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 Yep, I think to keep it simple I said stick to the DW standard, standard ammo clips are infinite but still need to be reloaded when each clip is emptied. Exception is SIA where each clip needs to be purchased. Although, now having read through the BC Rule of 3 thing, part of me wishes I'd gone that way as it might be kind of fun to have to watch your bursts! Anyway, leaving it as it is, too late to change it now! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Well shoot, here I'd been operating under the assumption that I had very limited spare ammo! Time for UNCOMFORTABLE LEVELS of dakka. Edited April 4, 2022 by Necronaut Machine God and Lysimachus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Well that is great. Now if someone will post about going to the Armourium, then I can post after. I hate Double Posting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Yep, I think to keep it simple I said stick to the DW standard, standard ammo clips are infinite but still need to be reloaded when each clip is emptied. Exception is SIA where each clip needs to be purchased. Although, now having read through the BC Rule of 3 thing, part of me wishes I'd gone that way as it might be kind of fun to have to watch your bursts! Anyway, leaving it as it is, too late to change it now! Across in Headhunted (Tro will attest to this) they had to buy almost every magazine, grenade, everything. It made for some exceptional strategic and magical thinking by (and at the request of!) the players - and the Rule of Three was lurking in the DW Core book long before those filthy traitors had it Lysi. @ Necro: Ork ASMR is best ASMR. @ MG: I have the same foible there. Edited April 4, 2022 by Mazer Rackham Necronaut, Trokair and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 @Mazer, I have been entertaining a similar thought with regard to reining in wanton ammunition consumption for Black Crusade, going above and beyond the rule of 3. But that's for another OOC thread. Also I recently programmed the Dakka ASMR into the white noise generator for my kids -- they've been sleeping like babies... And assembling cobbled-together firearms from the furniture and random toys. I think I'm doing this right? Trokair and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Also I recently programmed the Dakka ASMR into the white noise generator for my kids -- they've been sleeping like babies... And assembling cobbled-together firearms from the furniture and random toys. I think I'm doing this right? Dad of the Year material there bud. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Across in Headhunted (Tro will attest to this) they had to buy almost every magazine, grenade, everything. It made for some exceptional strategic and magical thinking by (and at the request of!) the players - and the Rule of Three was lurking in the DW Core book long before those filthy traitors had it Lysi. Indeed, and I still keep track of every round of ammo and grenade. I feel it is something a Marine would just instinctively know. I even made a ammo tracker for Sakal and his plasma gun for when that gets going. Machine God, Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 And we have been doing that in Plunder with Grenades and Bolt Rounds for Pistols. Draak's backpack runs out after 41.6r firings but we haven't (Yet) had that much combat. It was only the GM that forgot how many Krak Grenades that we had and had used, who had thought we'd run dry when we still had lots left. Trokair and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 To be fair Brynjarr was throwing them like candy at the panto. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Follow up question, max level of renown/rarity we're allowed to urchase from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 AFAIK: Respected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Pending Gm Fiat Diagnosticator Helmet - 15 Arm mounting -10 Hand flamer -10 Now this does need Lysimachus' approval, because RAW only weapons in the Las, Solid Projectile, Bolt, Melta Pistol or Auiliary Grenade Launcher categaroies can be used with the arm mounting upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Pending Gm Fiat Diagnosticator Helmet - 15 Arm mounting -10 Hand flamer -10 Now this does need Lysimachus' approval, because RAW only weapons in the Las, Solid Projectile, Bolt, Melta Pistol or Auiliary Grenade Launcher categaroies can be used with the arm mounting upgrade. Arm Mounting a weapon reduces range by 30% so your Hand Flamer would only have a 7m Range. Also Arm-Mountings are Distinguished Renown. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Ach, I'd spotte the range reduction, but not the distinguished bit. Back to the drawing board then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 And we have been doing that in Plunder with Grenades and Bolt Rounds for Pistols. Draak's backpack runs out after 41.6r firings but we haven't (Yet) had that much combat. I've always found a clip of hellfire to be handy for heavy bolters. One round expended per attack (particularly useful with a source of the accurate trait). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Diagnosticator Helmet - 15 Cluster Mines * 2 - 10 Stummer - 5 Leaving five left over for the communal pool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I'm pretty sure Draak has tech-use covered for us in Xin's/Redcloak's absence, but does anyone possess the Security skill? A multi-key would be pretty handy for navigating an Imperial ship, methinks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Diagnosticator Helmet - 15 Cluster Mines * 2 - 10 Stummer - 5 Leaving five left over for the communal pool. Going to be RPing as a nurse to Vesalius's (mad) doctor? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I'm pretty sure Draak has tech-use covered for us in Xin's/Redcloak's absence, but does anyone possess the Security skill? A multi-key would be pretty handy for navigating an Imperial ship, methinks. Might be a job for Mr Holger.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I do have some vague memories of him covering such duties in Episode 1. I guess we'll have to find out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/92/#findComment-5812359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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