Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Inceptors are primaris jump troops with gravis armor, and gravis would put them at roughly the same level of survivability, particularly if they keep death masks. Or would you prefer them with a different armor type? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I like the idea of artificer armour on them- ornate super intricate works of art that they wear. Gravis will be (and should be 3+ save). The T5 is a nice balance to be fair, though., but I just feel theyre more limber and dextrous. I would love to see something new for them. I think one element of the primaris range that is sorely lacking is the jump troop range. They could have done so much mor ewith the novelty that was the suppressor idea. Helias_Tancred, Dumah, Demoulius and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 For me, Gravis would look too chunky and lose the grace and elegance that SG are supposed to embody. I would rather see something more like flying BGVs with the armour being ornate rather than bulky. Having said that, I am not expecting Primaris SG in the near future (would love to be proved wrong though). Dumah, Morticon, CommDante and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I'd see SG wearing the same kind of armour that Shrike is wearing. More ornate, for sure, but I think his should be what they'd be based on... Morticon, Helias_Tancred and Karhedron 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 That would make some chunky angels. If I could decide I would take an elegant artificier armour with a 2+ save as it has been for years now. Tbh I don't want them to change except for lore reasons. Doesn't feel right if only firstborn can get this position. Why we don't slap a jetpack on the back of some bladeguards? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 That would make some chunky angels. If I could decide I would take an elegant artificier armour with a 2+ save as it has been for years now. Tbh I don't want them to change except for lore reasons. Doesn't feel right if only firstborn can get this position. Why we don't slap a jetpack on the back of some bladeguards?I was thinking more along the lines of Shrike with a SanguinaryGuard jump pack and more ornate chestplate and greaves... Basically upscaled SG, if they're going to redo them in Primaris size Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 I just don't see GW heading in that sort of direction any more to be honest. I'd prefer primaris artificer armor, but considering how the chapter unique unit kits they've provided so far, have just been upgrade kits thrown into boxes for normal units, a totally special and unique primaris SG doesn't seem likely Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Gravis is too cumbersome and clunky for them. Like others have said, I'd rather see an artificer version (2+ save) of Mk X armor ... .sculpted pieces especially the breastplates, and the same type of jump packs they currently have since in the lore those packs are ancient (and thus better). pandion40 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adorondak Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Whatever they do when/if they do make a primaris SG kit, if they don't throw a few extra parts on the sprue so we can make new primaris version of the sg ancient, sangpriest, and (fingers crossed) a primaris dante I can almost guarantee I'll never buy it. (But I can also guarantee I'll buy enough loose bits on Ebay to make a squad or ten...) Edit:spelling. Damned autocorrect.... Edited April 21, 2021 by Adorondak Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5690999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I don't want to imagine the figures of "bulky fat angels". pandion40 and Sarvis 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5691005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Articifer Omnis Pattern. 4 vaned thrusters with wings in place of the Grav Chutes like the Suppressors, small thrusters in other locations to enable sustained flight rather than powered boosts. Helias_Tancred and Adorondak 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5691019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I hope that whatever they do, please change the wings to easily and sturdy connect to the model. CommDante and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5691038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoridon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 You mean you don’t enjoy sticking wings back on every time you drop one? Jolemai, pandion40, Rhavien and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5691043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Perhaps you're doing something wrong with the wings, if they still drop. I mean - they are supposed to be flying or at the very least gliding :P Karhedron, BloodyB, pandion40 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5691074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyB Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I hope that whatever they do, please change the wings to easily and sturdy connect to the model. Honestly, I know 3 guys with SG themed armies, and they all go mad if you mention the wings being a bit off angle wise. "It looks a bit lobsided, the right wing needs to-" *Sudden Violence* I have had such conversations entirely too often. My own have magnetic wings with staples to attach to. Rhavien, Karhedron and Demoulius 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5691086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I have had such conversations entirely too often. My own have magnetic wings with staples to attach to. Now why didn't I think of that for these guys? Majkhel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5691291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I feel Gravis armor is abit to crude for what the SG do. They always come across as more 'finely tuned scalpel' then 'crude hammer' tactics that Gravis units seem to be. Id love better stats for SG but at the same time im not sure how they would go about it pandion40 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5697750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 IMO, sanguinary guard (and Dante) will have armour that is visually similar to the primaris chaplain (one with the hood), it has sculpted armour to follow the shape of muscles on the legs and technically all primaris armour has a more sculpted physique style to the chest. I would assume they'd remain a 2+ save unit, I could easily see GW going the route they went with calgar though and it being a hyper small bodyguard primaris unit. Although yeah a "proper" squad would be nicer. But all the above said, I'm really not sure we'll see chapter specific units for ages. Black Templars might get them first, kinda like the test bed for such things maybe. And I could see other first founding chapters getting them before us too as part of 9th ed updates next year maybe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5697778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 I feel Gravis armor is abit to crude for what the SG do. They always come across as more 'finely tuned scalpel' then 'crude hammer' tactics that Gravis units seem to be. Id love better stats for SG but at the same time im not sure how they would go about it the inceptors seem pretty scalpely to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5698142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServoBadger Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I'd like to add my vote to the "not Gravis" tally please. Nothing against Gravis, but it's brutal rather than elegant, and I prefer my Sanguinary Guard to be elegant. pandion40 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5698222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 If they wore gravis you could transhuman. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5698561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) But transhuman is tied to primaris and not gravis keyword. Edit Anyway, I can totally see them becoming a 3-6 unit. They are way to elite to stay 5-10 after they've gone the primaris way. And I wonder how GW will handle the situation. Till now, no new primaris unit replaced an old one to 100%. Following this trend our new sanguary guard would need a different approuch that justifies the old unit to stay. Or they just go legend... Edited May 12, 2021 by Rhavien Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5698596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyros Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Gravis pattern Mk.X is not something for flying elites, way to cumbersome. Phobos pattern Mk.X (like Shrike's) is also not something for flying elites. Shrike is an infiltrator (that's the way of the Raven Guard) so he needs the silent features of the Phobos pattern. As Blood Angels, we need the inspiring glamour of artificer armour for our elites. I 'm pretty sure that when it's time we will see Primaris Sanguinary Guard in gold artificer Tacticus pattern Mk.X armour with +2 save, and jump packs. There is already a precedence with Primaris Mephiston's armour, which is sculpted exactly like his old Mk.7 power armour. Sarvis and pandion40 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5698627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 There is of course the dreadful possibility we'll get a SG upgrade sprue to transform our Reivers.... Other than that, I would agree with Spyros that we'll see Artificer version of the Mk. X Tacticus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5698668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 God I hope not, as I am putting a lot of effort into a Sang Guard of Primaris size, which I will hopefully add too when then new ones come out! Majkhel and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370007-if-we-get-primaris-sg-couldshould-they-be-gravis-armored/#findComment-5699524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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