acrozatarim Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 From the leaks and from GW's phrasing, it looks like both the mutants and torments are 'Accursed Cultists' so you'll have your Accursed unit with a mix of mutants and torments in it. I guess they might take an elite slot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5832783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Question for the community i will be playtesting this weekend and want to bring a disco lord with some bawlerfiends. Query 1: Lasher or magma cutters? Lasher=6x s7 ap2 d1 Magma= 2x assault 1 6" s8 ap4 d6+2 Remember I play NL Query 2: TVI or magma cutter on the disco lord? TVI:+1d on all weapons vs vehicules Magma= assault 1 6" s8 ap4 d6+2 I might also be trying out the new daemon weapons on my characters remember my MoE build i talked about... he didnt have a daemon weapon. That wasnt even his final form! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5832962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 @Clockworkchris, I heard a rumor. No idea if it's true. Wondering if you can check with your source to see if it's accurate? Codex: CSM preorders start week of July 4. Book ships week of July 18. 2 special edition sets will be available for pre-order. One will include the Codex along with Mutants and Cultists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5832975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 5/27/2022 at 7:27 PM, "techsol said: @Clockworkchris, I heard a rumor. No idea if it's true. Wondering if you can check with your source to see if it's accurate? Codex: CSM preorders start week of July 4. Book ships week of July 18. 2 special edition sets will be available for pre-order. One will include the Codex along with Mutants and Cultists. He doesnt know. But cool beans about the info if true! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5832981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalmDown Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) On 5/27/2022 at 6:39 PM, Clockworkchris said: Question for the community i will be playtesting this weekend and want to bring a disco lord with some bawlerfiends. Query 1: Lasher or magma cutters? Lasher=6x s7 ap2 d1 Magma= 2x assault 1 6" s8 ap4 d6+2 Remember I play NL Query 2: TVI or magma cutter on the disco lord? TVI:+1d on all weapons vs vehicules Magma= assault 1 6" s8 ap4 d6+2 I might also be trying out the new daemon weapons on my characters remember my MoE build i talked about... he didnt have a daemon weapon. That wasnt even his final form! Lashers to help against hordes and avoid being bogged down. TVI because it's cool.(I also think NLs would be all about the cyber warfare) Edited May 27, 2022 by KalmDown Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5832987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Anarax Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 5/27/2022 at 7:57 PM, KalmDown said: On 5/27/2022 at 6:39 PM, Clockworkchris said: Question for the community i will be playtesting this weekend and want to bring a disco lord with some bawlerfiends. Query 1: Lasher or magma cutters? Lasher=6x s7 ap2 d1 Magma= 2x assault 1 6" s8 ap4 d6+2 Remember I play NL Query 2: TVI or magma cutter on the disco lord? TVI:+1d on all weapons vs vehicules Magma= assault 1 6" s8 ap4 d6+2 I might also be trying out the new daemon weapons on my characters remember my MoE build i talked about... he didnt have a daemon weapon. That wasnt even his final form! Lashers to help against hordes and avoid being bogged down. TVI because it's cool.(I also think NLs would be all about the cyber warfare)Second this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 5/27/2022 at 9:33 AM, "techsol said: On 5/26/2022 at 9:21 PM, KalmDown said: Something to remember about new Obliterators is they seem to have absorbed the role of Mutilators. Their melee is nothing to sniff at. 4s 10 ap3 d2 attacks each without a hit penalty on what is essentially a power fist. When combined with the Word Bearer trait they could be seriously deadly in a fight. Melee Obliterators are certainly an interesting change. My concern is ppm, good shooting + melee tends to be expensive. Probably true, but I fondly remember games in previous editions where my oblits punched things to death with their power fists when my opponents forgot about those. I like them having some credible melee power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Spotted on the Chaos 40k subreddit: Dr_Ruminahui, Guzzlrr, Marshal Mittens and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalmDown Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Those sweet, sweet wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Master-crafted Power Axe with D2! A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one. Guzzlrr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikoneo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 So glad they seem to be balanced more against the primaris than firstborns this time around. Never made sense to me having CSM equal to firstborn when they're the same base but with the addition of chaos power, they should always have been a bit better on a one-to-one basis for me Surreal Cruelty and Slave to Darkness 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy11 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Looks like my guy's sword is now just a really weird looking ax. Both datasheets look great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 11:39 AM, Someguy11 said: Looks like my guy's sword is now just a really weird looking ax. Both datasheets look great. I assume we are getting Master-crafted versions of all three base Power Weapons, the kit simply doesn't have a sword. And we didn't hear anything about the Terminator Lord's loadout being limited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy11 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 That's true. I do wonder however if you need to have both pairs of claws in the loadout. Hopefully the codex isn't too much further out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Gotta love the codex creep. 7 wounds and 6 attacks... Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I definitely love it. Lords have rarely been the badass beat sticks I expected them to be, especially against their loyalist equivalents. Relentless, petesamd, Grand_Master_Alpharius and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarLuther Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 So undoubtedly "pair of lighting claws" is still a thing. Nice to have an official confirmation (after the new Chosen kit,of course, but two confirmation are better than one) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 3:15 PM, SarLuther said: So undoubtedly "pair of lighting claws" is still a thing. Nice to have an official confirmation (after the new Chosen kit,of course, but two confirmation are better than one) Pair of lignhtning claws is still an option just not for termis and chosen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danodan123 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 3:39 PM, Clockworkchris said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:15 PM, SarLuther said: So undoubtedly "pair of lighting claws" is still a thing. Nice to have an official confirmation (after the new Chosen kit,of course, but two confirmation are better than one)Pair of lignhtning claws is still an option just not for termis and chosen. Can aspiring champions take them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 11:39 AM, Someguy11 said: Looks like my guy's sword is now just a really weird looking ax. Both datasheets look great. Same goes for my lord's mace. But it does make me wonder about the siegebreaker mace - where will we be able to equip? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 5:06 PM, danodan123 said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:39 PM, Clockworkchris said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:15 PM, SarLuther said: So undoubtedly "pair of lighting claws" is still a thing. Nice to have an official confirmation (after the new Chosen kit,of course, but two confirmation are better than one)Pair of lignhtning claws is still an option just not for termis and chosen. Can aspiring champions take them? I believe thats a no, they will be 'accursed weapons' I think?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalmDown Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 With lords at 6 attacks, it makes me wonder if Daemon Princes won't have 7 or 8. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Anarax Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 6:04 PM, Slave to Darkness said: On 5/28/2022 at 5:06 PM, danodan123 said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:39 PM, Clockworkchris said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:15 PM, SarLuther said: So undoubtedly "pair of lighting claws" is still a thing. Nice to have an official confirmation (after the new Chosen kit,of course, but two confirmation are better than one)Pair of lignhtning claws is still an option just not for termis and chosen.Can aspiring champions take them? I believe thats a no, they will be 'accursed weapons' I think?? Chris said accursed weapons were exclusive to chosen and terminators Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarLuther Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) On 5/28/2022 at 3:39 PM, Clockworkchris said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:15 PM, SarLuther said: So undoubtedly "pair of lighting claws" is still a thing. Nice to have an official confirmation (after the new Chosen kit,of course, but two confirmation are better than one)Pair of lignhtning claws is still an option just not for termis and chosen.That's great. I have plenty of "Pair of Lighting Claws" models. But if you don't mind I still can't swallow the idea that THE SAME IDENTICAL weapon has three different profile when in the hand of a Chosen, a Chaos Lord or a Warp Talon.... It's the first time the history of the game that something like that happens. Edited May 28, 2022 by SarLuther Lord Raven 19 and Bulwyf 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 6:22 PM, Warsmith Anarax said: On 5/28/2022 at 6:04 PM, Slave to Darkness said: On 5/28/2022 at 5:06 PM, danodan123 said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:39 PM, Clockworkchris said: On 5/28/2022 at 3:15 PM, SarLuther said: So undoubtedly "pair of lighting claws" is still a thing. Nice to have an official confirmation (after the new Chosen kit,of course, but two confirmation are better than one)Pair of lignhtning claws is still an option just not for termis and chosen.Can aspiring champions take them?I believe thats a no, they will be 'accursed weapons' I think??Chris said accursed weapons were exclusive to chosen and terminators That's based on datasheets, they also said they haven't seen the general wargear lists, so GW could throw in "Accursed Weapons" on the melee wargear list for people to get kitbash crazy with. Khornestar and Surreal Cruelty 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/116/#findComment-5833333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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