Mike8404 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) I'm sure he's just popped out for a smoke. Actually, though, your reasoning seems pretty sound. I wonder if he's being "embiggened" like Abadon was. Currently the only Finecast kits left are: The Nurgle Daemon prince, Noise Marine upgrades and Lucicus the Eternal. We know that EC will get their codex at some point and I'm assuming that the Nurgle Daemon prince will be retired when the new prince drops. Embiggening Huron makes sense to help get rid of Finecast (he's also ridiculously small compared to the entire Chaos range), plus it also adds more fuel for my Hypetrain Hopefully when they do re-do him, they fix his armour. Second most powerful warlord in the Eye and he's still limping around with missing chunks of armour Night Lords are still finecast/resin too, just throwing that out there :) Edited May 19, 2022 by Mike8404 TrawlingCleaner and Tallarn Commander 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Anarax Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 The Red Corsairs are also the most widespread users of Chaos Bikers, and since we're rumoured to get new models for those... They could perhaps be part of a second wave or something?Could be. Maybe winter when the daemon prince comes out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I'm sure he's just popped out for a smoke. Actually, though, your reasoning seems pretty sound. I wonder if he's being "embiggened" like Abadon was.Currently the only Finecast kits left are: The Nurgle Daemon prince, Noise Marine upgrades and Lucicus the Eternal. We know that EC will get their codex at some point and I'm assuming that the Nurgle Daemon prince will be retired when the new prince drops. Embiggening Huron makes sense to help get rid of Finecast (he's also ridiculously small compared to the entire Chaos range), plus it also adds more fuel for my Hypetrain Hopefully when they do re-do him, they fix his armour. Second most powerful warlord in the Eye and he's still limping around with missing chunks of armour Night Lords are still finecast/resin too, just throwing that out there The NL character model on the GW site is metal actually. Tallarn Commander 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8404 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I'm sure he's just popped out for a smoke. Actually, though, your reasoning seems pretty sound. I wonder if he's being "embiggened" like Abadon was.Currently the only Finecast kits left are: The Nurgle Daemon prince, Noise Marine upgrades and Lucicus the Eternal. We know that EC will get their codex at some point and I'm assuming that the Nurgle Daemon prince will be retired when the new prince drops. Embiggening Huron makes sense to help get rid of Finecast (he's also ridiculously small compared to the entire Chaos range), plus it also adds more fuel for my Hypetrain Hopefully when they do re-do him, they fix his armour. Second most powerful warlord in the Eye and he's still limping around with missing chunks of armour Night Lords are still finecast/resin too, just throwing that out there The NL character model on the GW site is metal actually. Hell, that's even more of a reason to replace it then TrawlingCleaner 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 The NL Chaos Lord also has a combi-weapon (bolter and flamer) which according to the leaks they can't have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 The NL Chaos Lord also has a combi-weapon (bolter and flamer) which according to the leaks they can't have.Between that and the fact the Jump Lord is supposed to be on range rotation is why I suspect we may not have the full picture from the playtest stuff yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I'm sure he's just popped out for a smoke. Actually, though, your reasoning seems pretty sound. I wonder if he's being "embiggened" like Abadon was. Currently the only Finecast kits left are: The Nurgle Daemon prince, Noise Marine upgrades and Lucicus the Eternal. We know that EC will get their codex at some point and I'm assuming that the Nurgle Daemon prince will be retired when the new prince drops. Embiggening Huron makes sense to help get rid of Finecast (he's also ridiculously small compared to the entire Chaos range), plus it also adds more fuel for my Hypetrain Hopefully when they do re-do him, they fix his armour. Second most powerful warlord in the Eye and he's still limping around with missing chunks of armour I believe he’s actually in the maelstrom, but he is also the most powerful person there, further reinforcing your point. TrawlingCleaner 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 To be fair, the same plinth also uses the old Daemon Prince and Possessed models while we are getting new ones, so unfortunately I don't think it's a proof of anything, as much as I'd love Huron to get a new face lift. It's possible the original model was unavailable for some reason or even got damaged during transport. You definitely could be right there, it could be a new model or it could just be that they're updating his paint scheme to be closer to new artwork or to rebase him. My tinfoil hat is firmly on and refuses to come off though I'm sure he's just popped out for a smoke. Actually, though, your reasoning seems pretty sound. I wonder if he's being "embiggened" like Abadon was.Currently the only Finecast kits left are: The Nurgle Daemon prince, Noise Marine upgrades and Lucicus the Eternal. We know that EC will get their codex at some point and I'm assuming that the Nurgle Daemon prince will be retired when the new prince drops. Embiggening Huron makes sense to help get rid of Finecast (he's also ridiculously small compared to the entire Chaos range), plus it also adds more fuel for my Hypetrain Hopefully when they do re-do him, they fix his armour. Second most powerful warlord in the Eye and he's still limping around with missing chunks of armour Night Lords are still finecast/resin too, just throwing that out there That's very true, although as they're sadly the last ones there I can't see them surviving the new Codex change which is a shame because they're iconic. On the bright side, HH is looking to be releasing waves of resin heads which would work pretty well for 40k Night Lords Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 New "Cultist Warband" (renamed Cultists of the Abyss). Guzzlrr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrest_IW Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 New "Cultist Warband" (renamed Cultists of the Abyss). Nice flamer S5 ap1 2D :P if csm can have 7-8 cultist squads for cheap this will be NOT bad :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzzlrr Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) New "Cultist Warband" (renamed Cultists of the Abyss). I may still be sticking to my Guardsmen proxies, however 2 damage flamers does look tasty Chris, do you have any more information on some other War bands, specifically, Black Legion or Iron Warriors ? I am quite excited about this release, just getting really frustrated now with the wait. Edit : Just noticed another Post regarding this, cleared up a couple questions and gripes I had. And thus removed. Edited May 20, 2022 by Guzzlrr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Interesting that these aren't the cultists that were previewed at Warhammer Fest. Maybe there'll be another kit for a more melee-focused squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Interesting that these aren't the cultists that were previewed at Warhammer Fest. Maybe there'll be another kit for a more melee-focused squad? It's a rebox of the BSF Cultists of the Abyss box that's been out for a while. And yeah it looks like the other half is a more melee focused squad. That or you can mash the two kits together for all your cultist squad options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I checked and the stats are exactly the same as in 8th Edition - the thing is they are separate units you can only deploy as a part of the Servants of the Abyss detachment (BSF units) and so, they are practically unplayable. I don't know what this "rebrand" (badum-tss!) might mean for the Codex and the cultists units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Oddly, the firebrand seems to be a completely separate character and stat line to the rest of the squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Interesting that these aren't the cultists that were previewed at Warhammer Fest. Maybe there'll be another kit for a more melee-focused squad? It's a rebox of the BSF Cultists of the Abyss box that's been out for a while. And yeah it looks like the other half is a more melee focused squad. That or you can mash the two kits together for all your cultist squad options. To add to this, these were the guys we saw at WHF and they seem to continue on the Cultist of the Abyss theme: It does make me wonder, will the normal cultists be the combat guys and the Traitor Guardsmen be the shooty guys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Interesting that these aren't the cultists that were previewed at Warhammer Fest. Maybe there'll be another kit for a more melee-focused squad? It's a rebox of the BSF Cultists of the Abyss box that's been out for a while. And yeah it looks like the other half is a more melee focused squad. That or you can mash the two kits together for all your cultist squad options. Yep, I'm more just surprised that GW kept the box as it was, especially with the Firebrand. I half expected them to take the Firebrand out and add a sprue of three more cultists to keep the squad at a minimum of 10; as it is, it kind of implies that the minimum squad size will be 7 or 8 (depending on whether the Firebrand is a separate character or not), which makes them an even cheaper option for objective camping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danodan123 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I'm pretty sure that they'll not have min squads of 7-8 and that the cultist squad we know and love, won't be changing much, I'd even have a (small) wager with someone on it :) A 7-8 squad just seems stupid, they're probably just keeping the sprue alive because its actually decent. The firebrand being an elite choice would be rather cool though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainaxe07 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Oddly, the firebrand seems to be a completely separate character and stat line to the rest of the squad. Not to mention stronger and more durable than a marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I'm pretty sure that they'll not have min squads of 7-8 and that the cultist squad we know and love, won't be changing much, I'd even have a (small) wager with someone on it A 7-8 squad just seems stupid, they're probably just keeping the sprue alive because its actually decent. The firebrand being an elite choice would be rather cool though. If that were the case, this would be the first time in a very long time that GW have put out a box that doesn't meet the minimum requirements for fielding a squad ie: Minimum is 10 man unit, theres only 7 in the box. As many bad moves as GW can make, I really don't think this would be one of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 This is interesting, the firebrand part. Would like to add a little umph to my cultist IW army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Would the 2D make it the best infantry carried flamer in the game? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrest_IW Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Firebrand is atm char. from elite and 35p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danodan123 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Firebrand is atm char. from elite and 35p Technically yes, but I think we all mean we would like to see it included in the next codex, these kind of units from, specialist games get rules, but are more of a side note then part of the army roster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Seems neat for cultist armies but unless the new firebrand rules give it some additional special abilities, I can't see much use for it at that points value in a regular CSM army with some cultist chaff. The special flamer is cool but not worth an elite slot, another quite squishy character for Assassination, and that many points. Guzzlrr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/111/#findComment-5829988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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