Butcher_of_Malakir Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 By khorne I can't wait for someone to leak the whole dex so we get to see our other HQ stats and rules. I want to star building my new list already Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Im happy with the codex reveals so far, possessed are scary and might run alot of chosen just to have all my chaos marines have 3 wounds to rid of the memories of 1 wound for so long against loyalist. Curious how armour of contempt will shape our future with units like obliterates and Daemon princes along with the buffed land raider. Also excited with future kit bashes with the new heresy and World eater kits. Iron Father Ferrum and Guzzlrr 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Prophet of the Despoiler said: Still waiting to see if there are super doctrines, and if chosen can take these extra traits which I feel is unlikely now. The super doctrine is now the exploding 6s rather then ap, also all flamers get d6 +2 hits as part of let the galaxy burn. Seen the chosen page in the codex. The special rule now is that when they destroy a unit they now count as being in all three doctrines at once. So exploding 6s. Edited June 25, 2022 by ChargingSoll Misspelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkseren1ty Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Well, with all the leaks thus far.. I am ambivalent about the changes. Our shooting seems to have been nerfed a little (no more endless cacophony). Our easy charges (warptime + honor the prince) seem to have been nerfed. but! The stat lines have been buffed significantly. im ok with most of the changes.. but I really wish Marks and icons could be given to all infantry squads. Especially the daemonkin stuff. It feels like I’ve been robbed a little. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarik Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 If people are referring to wanton massacre, etc. when they say super doctrines, those have been confirmed by leaked pictures of the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkseren1ty Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Aarik said: If people are referring to wanton massacre, etc. when they say super doctrines, those have been confirmed by leaked pictures of the codex. No, super doctrines were supposedly a unique rule for each legion that conferred an additional bonus for that part of the doctrine. Like the EC one was supposedly an extra attack on hit rolls of 6 during wanton slaughter, combined with the wanton slaughter bonus, that would’ve given 2 extra attacks on a hit roll of 6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Daemon weapons (point cost upgrade) Tzeentch : ignore invuls Nurgle: all hits autowounds,ignore fnp and wound gates Khorne:+d3 damage Slaanesh: dual wield weapon only +d3 damage per weapon ALL_LEAKS.odt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Above is my curated list of leaks includes all the things i couldnt share as well. Strats have been updated. Except the following. Stratagem 1cp/2cp A unit not in engagement range can shoot at an ennemy unit in engagement with a friendly unit. 1s to hit hit your friendly unit. 1 cp if friednly unit in engagement range is CULTIST. 2cp if other Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Clockworkchris said: Daemon weapons (point cost upgrade) Tzeentch : ignore invuls Nurgle: all hits autowounds,ignore fnp and wound gates Khorne:+d3 damage Slaanesh: dual wield weapon only +d3 damage per weapon ALL_LEAKS.odtUnavailable your doc was killed quick lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Wasn't the Slaanesh demon weapon already previewed at +D3 attacks per weapon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Hathor42 said: your doc was killed quick lol. Indeed, just over half an hour from post. Well, we’ll see things soon enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Hathor42 said: Wasn't the Slaanesh demon weapon already previewed at +D3 attacks per weapon? It was. Maybe just a li’l typo. Also, +d3 damage is pretty neat on the Khorne upgrade. But is this extra damage per attack, I wonder? I’m thinking power fist looks nice, as it has the strength and AP to perhaps more reliably force that extra damage through. Edited June 25, 2022 by Khornestar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipsy Techpriest Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 My hope is that Creations of Bile will no longer require Bile as the warlord if they're getting full legion rules. I want to use them as the 40k equivalent to the 30k Chymeriae Blackshields. There have got to be Chimeric / tampered with / generally screwed up 'marines' out there that have nothing to do with Fabius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefBones Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 With all the leaks I’ve seen, my Purge army is no longer bespoke. The Orb of Unlife is no longer war and specific, and Chris just posted their bespoke strat. I am a sad panda. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesuVult Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I was pretty down on the leaks even when it was believed we were getting super doctrines. Now as an Iron Warrior player I am down on it even more so. I expect there will be some strong options but it does not look like a particularly fun book and the strong options are coming from units priced to move. Chosen at 25ppm for 3 wounds gives you a good chunk of wounds that you can push into people and Abaddon is priced very aggressively but I do not want to cannon fodder my chosen to try and get in the way of someone taking an objective and Abaddon working as something the codex must work around I do not see working long term. If we get more weapon stat changes I could see that doing something for me. Havocs with lascannons like those we saw on the land raider would be very noteworthy. There is a spell for resurrecting an obliterator at full health while healing another for those who have interest in that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, ChiefBones said: With all the leaks I’ve seen, my Purge army is no longer bespoke. The Orb of Unlife is no longer war and specific, and Chris just posted their bespoke strat. I am a sad panda. Why sad? So far you can still do all the stuff they did before plus whatever they get for make their own warband. Plus, it's very on point for chaos to be ok shooting into their own forces to kill the enemy especially cultists. Lord Abaia 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Boo there is no create your own warband rules :( now i'm a little sad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipsy Techpriest Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, Hathor42 said: Boo there is no create your own warband rules :( now i'm a little sad. Wait really? I don't think we've seen a table of contents yet I assumed they'd be there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesuVult Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tipsy Techpriest said: Wait really? I don't think we've seen a table of contents yet I assumed they'd be there Full codex has leaked. stayduned and Tipsy Techpriest 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stayduned Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 No Create your Warband and NO Super Doctrines. My Hype is over...... Chosen are useless, no super docts, no create your warband. Everyone will Spam possesed until they get nerfed. At least Cultist get obsec. Was hoping to use my 2 Black legion Decimators in Super Doctrine for extra hits on 5+, no they remain useless :( Iron Father Ferrum, Tipsy Techpriest, Guzzlrr and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzzlrr Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) So far I'm happy with the changes, will need to get a few battles in. Couple of expectations that weren't filled but not the end of the world Edits : spelling etc Im a very happy chappy today Edited June 25, 2022 by Guzzlrr stayduned 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipsy Techpriest Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, DesuVult said: Full codex has leaked. That's boring. So even Tyranids have custom rules but renegade warbands all fit the same template Edited June 25, 2022 by Tipsy Techpriest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikoneo Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, DesuVult said: Full codex has leaked. Any word on where to find it, or has it been removed pretty quick? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodOfHammers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mikoneo said: Any word on where to find it, or has it been removed pretty quick? It wasn't necessarily leaked, but the NDA lifted today for reviewers, so there are a lot of reviews out there for it now. I highly recommend Tabletop Tactics review, as it is pretty in depth and nicely laid out Guzzlrr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/121/#findComment-5836735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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