techsoldaten Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Don't forget that GW was only faking it's love for Deathguard. They hate us just as much as any other chaos faction. Thousand Sons beg to differ. Chaos will always be toned down in comparison to Loyalists. A significant portion of their customers are parents buying models for their teenagers, outright devil worship cannot be the first thing they are presented with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Well loyalists aren't that great right now either, besides a few outliers and Grey Knights (which have an old model range). Although the loyalist side is already wanting a new Codex to bump their power up, can't even wait for our book to be released out of courtesy first, smh. As for points, even if they did have them, I don't think they're meaningful if this information is from playtesters. Khornestar, TheGodOfHammers and Petitioner's City 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) Yeah, for all the widespread of “GW always overpowers Marines” memes, one of the most consistent facts in my twenty years of playing 40K is the mediocrity of the vanilla Space Marine army. Edited February 11, 2022 by Lexington Petitioner's City, Montford, SanguinaryGuardsman and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Don't forget that GW was only faking it's love for Deathguard. They hate us just as much as any other chaos faction. Thousand Sons beg to differ. Chaos will always be toned down in comparison to Loyalists. A significant portion of their customers are parents buying models for their teenagers, outright devil worship cannot be the first thing they are presented with. Didnt do me any harm, I turned out ok lol. Funny that religious persecution and genocide is fine but devil worship isnt when Satanism is a legit recognised belief system now. Ahh the worlds a weird place and who knows what goes on in the heads of those in GW head office. Just slap a 'for mature readers' label on the cover like they did with RoC back in 1st ed and be done with it, worse stuff goin on in real life than anything kids can be exposed to in a Chaos codex. Well loyalists aren't that great right now either, besides a few outliers and Grey Knights (which have an old model range). Although the loyalist side is already wanting a new Codex to bump their power up, can't even wait for our book to be released out of courtesy first, smh. As for points, even if they did have them, I don't think they're meaningful if this information is from playtesters. Points would probably end up changing day after the codex drops anyway, now Im starting to see the appeal of power levels. techsoldaten and Doctor Perils 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldavf Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 GW has changed over the years, anyone remember the 3.5 deamonettes?. Anyway more rumours please :P Plague _Lord and Vesalius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I want to hear the points leaks for some of these units... We don't have any leaks yet. Just unproven rumours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Thousand Sons beg to differ. Chaos will always be toned down in comparison to Loyalists. A significant portion of their customers are parents buying models for their teenagers, outright devil worship cannot be the first thing they are presented with. Didnt do me any harm, I turned out ok lol. Funny that religious persecution and genocide is fine but devil worship isnt when Satanism is a legit recognised belief system now. Ahh the worlds a weird place and who knows what goes on in the heads of those in GW head office. Just slap a 'for mature readers' label on the cover like they did with RoC back in 1st ed and be done with it, worse stuff goin on in real life than anything kids can be exposed to in a Chaos codex. 40k's great irony - no protagonists exist in the game. Each faction is monstrous, having a preference points to a terrible flaw in perception. Those who stick with Chaos over multiple editions make this point abundantly clear. Yet we persist. Tallarn Commander 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Yeah, for all the widespread of “GW always overpowers Marines” memes, one of the most consistent facts in my twenty years of playing 40K is the mediocrity of the vanilla Space Marine army. Nobody remembers the long periods of marines being average or slightly bad when they are still suffering from extra salty nerd rage from that game vs 8th ed Iron Hands where they got tabled on the first turn. Balthamal, lansalt, Prot and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 It sucks that Legionnaires/Termies lose options they've had since 2nd ed... Exactly. Am I reading that rumor right that termies can't take lightning claws anymore? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldavf Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 It sucks that Legionnaires/Termies lose options they've had since 2nd ed... Exactly. Am I reading that rumor right that termies can't take lightning claws anymore? yes the weapons are highly restricted and claws arent on the list. You can only have a single termy in 5 have 2 melee weapons Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5795755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet of the Despoiler Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I think we are all getting fairly annoyed at these rumours, best remembering until we see actual data sheets that we can’t believe anything. Llagos_Tyrant, Banks, Petitioner's City and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Welcome to the chaos threads, if we aint grumbling about something then somethings wrong lol. Its how we cope. Dr_Ruminahui, Vettanker, Iron Father Ferrum and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Welcome to the chaos threads, if we aint grumbling about something then somethings wrong lol. Its how we cope. True, but we must be vigilant not to allow this forum to descend into the pit it used to be in the 5th-7th era. Tipsy Techpriest, TwinOcted, Marshal Loss and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Welcome to the chaos threads, if we aint grumbling about something then somethings wrong lol. Its how we cope. True, but we must be vigilant not to allow this forum to descend into the pit it used to be in the 5th-7th era. Moderators emerge from the shadows, not with their usual pronouncements of decorum; but with ominous moans of grim tides to come. Mournful tales of the past shall return to stain all hope for the future. Thus verily, rumors became omens, as woe came to all for the 9th edition Chaos Space Marine Codex. RolandTHTG, MegaVolt87, WrathOfTheLion and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet of the Despoiler Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 If the recent books are anything to go by, chaos is going to hit hard. Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Welcome to the chaos threads, if we aint grumbling about something then somethings wrong lol. Its how we cope. True, but we must be vigilant not to allow this forum to descend into the pit it used to be in the 5th-7th era. Moderators emerge from the shadows, not with their usual pronouncements of decorum; but with ominous moans of grim tides to come. Mournful tales of the past shall return to stain all hope for the future. Thus verily, rumors became omens, as woe came to all for the 9th edition Chaos Space Marine Codex. Look at this man relaying verses from the Urizen. It hurts to read the prophecies. Tallarn Commander and techsoldaten 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) It sucks that Legionnaires/Termies lose options they've had since 2nd ed... Exactly. Am I reading that rumor right that termies can't take lightning claws anymore? yes the weapons are highly restricted and claws arent on the list. You can only have a single termy in 5 have 2 melee weapons That is just...wow. No. LC are iconic as living :cuss for termies especially for NL termies. Edited February 15, 2022 by Iron Father Ferrum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet of the Despoiler Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Clockworkchris, have you any insight into when the codex will drop, have you seen any data sheets or models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elazar The Glorified Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Will Emperor's Children still get Noise Marines as Troops? Just seeing the changes with the other Cult units and the expanded Legion Traits... It would be a shame to have to abandon my bitter amusement at having troops choices with no minis if Cultists get something to replace the Dark Vengeance options and Noise Marines aren't troops anymore! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodOfHammers Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Clockworkchris, have you any insight into when the codex will drop, have you seen any data sheets or models? I believe he said his source is a playtester, and there were no pictures in their communications (at least that he has shown us). I regards to other rumours I've seen, I've heard multiple that say the codex is dropping in April and another that says it's dropping by June Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I've postulated April, but that could totally be wrong. I think the only rumor I have actually heard might be the June one. It wouldn't really surprise me if Chaos Knights/Knights came out after Tyranids. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I've postulated April, but that could totally be wrong. I think the only rumor I have actually heard might be the June one. It wouldn't really surprise me if Chaos Knights/Knights came out after Tyranids. Take this with much salt. I was told not to expect it before June. Not June, but not before June. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 That would not surprise me at all, if they're doing World Eaters, I guess to them it's part of the 'surprise'. I wouldn't be at all shocked if we were the last Codex update. zero88 and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 GW ideally like to have 2.5-3 months between the first teaser & a release, and we're shaping up to be a pretty involved release with a lot of kits. If we haven't heard anything (other than the Nachmund KT) by Adepticon in late March then it could be a while. Will Emperor's Children still get Noise Marines as Troops? Just seeing the changes with the other Cult units and the expanded Legion Traits... Yeah, for sure. Can't see why we wouldn't. They forgot to offer this for EC & WE when the 8th ed book came out and the outrage brought about an almost instant change. Khornestar and WrathOfTheLion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 GW ideally like to have 2.5-3 months between the first teaser & a release, and we're shaping up to be a pretty involved release with a lot of kits. If we haven't heard anything (other than the Nachmund KT) by Adepticon in late March then it could be a while. They also don't back to back two armies like that usually. They're going to give just enough time for you to not want to skip Eldar. It was pretty much guaranteed that we weren't going to follow Eldar, as I'd mentioned a few times here. Even with Kill Team if it includes stuff for us, things like Kill Team: Chalnath predated the T'au codex by a couple of months, so they're not averse to releasing new stuff there and holding out on the rules for a bit. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/37/#findComment-5796921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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