TrawlingCleaner Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 anyway back to topic! when are we gonna see the 2nd half of the kill team nachmund!!?? GW previously said that they would release a KT boxset every quarter. Thelast box was relased in November Last year, so in theory we should get the box before the end of March ( as the Corsairs are in the Aeldari codex). I'd imagine we'll see the other half of the box in the next couple of weeks and likely pre-order the week after the Aeldari Codex comes out (pure guess work and conjecture) Alright some big updates. So my source corrected me on some things that i wrote here. Marks and daemonic gifts are one and the same. So this means marks need to be purchased and on top of providing a keyword it also provides you automatically with the daemonic gift. So you want to make your chosen khorne. You pay some points and the chosen gain the keyword khorne & the +1s on the charge. This also means that the perks apply to all core and characters, including helbrutes. Now for icons, here is a list of markable units who can have icons: Legionaires Chosen Possessed Bikers Terminator Here is a list of markable units that cannot get icons: Raptors Warptalons Helbrute Havocs Thank you for passing these on ClockworkChris. Did your source mention anything about a limit on the amount of units you can give Marks? Or any restrictions on mixing Marks in a detachment etc Or is this purely down to how many points you want to put into them? On the units that can get Icons that currently do not have icons, if Legionnaires are getting an upgrade sprue with a Daemon weapon, 2 handed axe etc, it's not much of stretch to think that it could either have extra bits for other units or there's more than one upgrade sprue coming. Primaris received an upgrade sprue for each First Founding Chapter with different equipment that could be given to Intercessors. Whilst I don't think we'd get an upgrade sprue for each Legion (we are Chaos afterall ), I can definitely see them releasing an upgrade sprue with more options. We currently only have a vague idea of what Chaos are getting model wise, just because we currently don't have it, doesn't mean it won't exsist when the Codex drops. TheGodOfHammers and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanger Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 So, if I'm reading the leaks correctly, then Bile's possessed can be S 7 AP -1 on the charge inately (and heck knows what profile their tentacles get...). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 So, if I'm reading the leaks correctly, then Bile's possessed can be S 7 AP -1 on the charge inately (and heck knows what profile their tentacles get...). Fight on death is the real sauce for Creations of Bile. Fight last? Don't care. Got charged by multiple units and are out of CP? Don't care. Got heroically intervened by Trajan? Don't care. If this trait also applies to daemon engines it will be hilarious. Vesalius, Tallarn Commander and Khornestar 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Are there currently any units in any army that get to use their full number of attacks on death? The things I'm familiar with are based on a d6 roll. Edited February 18, 2022 by Khornestar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Are there currently any units in any army that get to use their full number of attacks on death? The things I'm familiar with are based on a d6 roll. Wulfen can make all their attacks provided they have not fought. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relentless Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Are there currently any units in any army that get to use their full number of attacks on death? The things I'm familiar with are based on a d6 roll. Flesh tearers can with a strat Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) I had also forgotten about the only in death does duty end strat for space marines. Point of asking was of course to see if there was precedent, and under what circumstances. Even if it applied to all eligible units, to use all of their attacks on death, still wouldn't be OP in today's world of crazy rules. Edited February 18, 2022 by Khornestar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDops Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Are there currently any units in any army that get to use their full number of attacks on death? The things I'm familiar with are based on a d6 roll. Flesh tearers can with a strat Noise marines as well Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I had also forgotten about the only in death does duty end strat for space marines. Point of asking was of course to see if there was precedent, and under what circumstances. Even if it applied to all eligible units, to use all of their attacks on death, still wouldn't be OP in today's world of crazy rules. Well it does have strict conditions unlike Tau or Dark Eldar shooting which does not. It also does not allow for you to double up on value since you still only get your standard offensive output. It would not surprise me at all if the fight on death only works on infantry to avoid vehicles exploding for d3 or even d6 mortals then fighting... and then what bracket do they get to fight on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I had also forgotten about the only in death does duty end strat for space marines. Point of asking was of course to see if there was precedent, and under what circumstances. Even if it applied to all eligible units, to use all of their attacks on death, still wouldn't be OP in today's world of crazy rules. Well it does have strict conditions unlike Tau or Dark Eldar shooting which does not. It also does not allow for you to double up on value since you still only get your standard offensive output. It would not surprise me at all if the fight on death only works on infantry to avoid vehicles exploding for d3 or even d6 mortals then fighting... and then what bracket do they get to fight on? That would be reasonable. Though, the rule could also add a stipulation for vehicles and what bracket they fight with. SanguinaryGuardsman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5797871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I think creations of bile will be pretty cool if all this stuff turns up in the codex. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettanker Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I had also forgotten about the only in death does duty end strat for space marines. Point of asking was of course to see if there was precedent, and under what circumstances. Even if it applied to all eligible units, to use all of their attacks on death, still wouldn't be OP in today's world of crazy rules. Well it does have strict conditions unlike Tau or Dark Eldar shooting which does not. It also does not allow for you to double up on value since you still only get your standard offensive output. It would not surprise me at all if the fight on death only works on infantry to avoid vehicles exploding for d3 or even d6 mortals then fighting... and then what bracket do they get to fight on? Pretty sure I've seen a rule somewhere like this that said it was treated as having one wound left for the purposes of making that attack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet of the Despoiler Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 So maybe tyranids in 4 weeks chaos in 8? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 So maybe tyranids in 4 weeks chaos in 8? I think the rumour was Chaos Knights before CSM. It wouldn't surprise me if GW were to release CSM to coincide with the next Warzone book, since the end of the last one was pretty ominous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 So maybe tyranids in 4 weeks chaos in 8? Irritating if true but flip side, means I haven't got to remortgage the house to buy the new shinies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 If WE got no rules in the new CSM codex it would probably be released before the CSM codex too. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiju Soze Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 If WE got no rules in the new CSM codex it would probably be released before the CSM codex too. Except that the rumours say WE are getting a get-you-by PDF until their codex drops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 If WE got no rules in the new CSM codex it would probably be released before the CSM codex too.Except that the rumours say WE are getting a get-you-by PDF until their codex drops.Haven't heard any rumours of that. Sucks to be them I guess. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) I’m just writing off WE until they get their own codex at this point. Can only wait so long, thus the switch to working on WB. I might be one of the crazy ones, but I’d prefer WE stay in the core CSM book. For all the good preferences do for such things. Edited February 21, 2022 by Khornestar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiju Soze Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Except that the rumours say WE are getting a get-you-by PDF until their codex drops.Haven't heard any rumours of that. Sucks to be them I guess. Pretty sure I read that in some of the rumour talk here on B&C. So treat with as much salt as anything else in this thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 So seems like info is getting more scarce. 2 generic stratagems for jump pack units: •Mw on the charge •-1 attack BL strat that lets you change a units legion for a turn. TrawlingCleaner, Khornestar, WrathOfTheLion and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 BL strat that lets you change a units legion for a turn. lol Couldnt have asked for a better strat than this. Wouldnt surprise me if this cost a lot to use though... 2 or even 3 cp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 New kill team video dropped featuring chaos space marines, showing off the heavy chain axe and the psychic chaos book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 And a chaincannon for the regular marine squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) That confirms that chunk of the rumors there, that there were changes in loadout to the base CSM troops (we inferred that it was from a killteam upgrade). Think that's the first detail we've gotten out to confirm that. The video also calls them Legionaries, as was mentioned. Edited February 21, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion TheGodOfHammers and Vesalius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/39/#findComment-5798561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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