Sersi Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I just want to know the stats for Obliterators, considering we know their weapons. I will ask Hi, you've said that Noise Marine Sonic Weapons got better, can you verify how they've changed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I just want to know the stats for Obliterators, considering we know their weapons. I will ask Can you confirm if the Jump Pack option on the Lord has indeed been removed from the codex? You guys will have to come to terms with that info, but yes I have already double checked (being a NL player). I am hoping its just an obsolete set playtest rules. RolandTHTG 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Given that you can still buy a Chaos Lord with jump pack (albeit in Finecast), I wouldn't be surprised if it does remain an option. At worst, it'll move to Legends - I just don't see them removing the option entirely. At least, I hope not. I have three lovingly-converted Chaos Lords with jump packs, one of which is even my avatar on this board... Thanks for keeping us in the loop and keeping the summary updated, Chris. Has your source got any info on what will happen with World Eaters? Presumably we're getting our own codex eventually, but if we're not in the book and the codex doesn't come out at about the same time, then will there be some kind of interim document to keep us going? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 You can buy the red terror too but its not in the new tyranid book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldavf Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Already got my lord a bus pass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Already got my lord a bus pass. Same. *side eyes unpainted Spartan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon303 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Very sad to see no jump packs for lords, really lack mobility for HQs since bikes went to legends. Saying that though, SM are already paying the price for the exploits of smash captains as jump pack captains are insanely overpriced so maybe we're not missing out on much anyway. Don't suppose you've heard anything about the lord of skulls? Presume that's staying in the CSM book not moving out to the World Eaters codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Maybe some stuff is just left out of the play test copy? For instance, if the plague marine stats and rubric stats are set from their codexes, maybe you can still take them, but they don't reprint the rules because they don't want there to be conflicts when they update the other codexes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Clockworkchris - you mentioned that the sorcerer in terminator armour now has the option for a familiar (makes sense, there's one on the sprue). Could you ask what the familiar does, and if it's meant to be on its own separate base or just added to the sorcerer's own? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodOfHammers Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Clockworkchris, any word on what the Faction secondaries look like? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 So guys dont want to cause any mass panic, but GW last chance to buy section has been updated, SM and CSM jump lords and captain are there, huron is there as well same as the warsmith. SM https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer-40-000?N=1054272578+4033599123+3694373482&Nr=AND%28product.locale%3Aen_CA_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ACA_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1647591780000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1647591780000%5D&view=all CSM https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer-40-000?N=1054272578+4033599123+2590967967&Nr=AND%28product.locale%3Aen_CA_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ACA_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1647592020000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1647592020000%5D&view=all Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 So guys dont want to cause any mass panic, but GW last chance to buy section has been updated, SM and CSM jump lords and captain are there, huron is there as well same as the warsmith. SM https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer-40-000?N=1054272578+4033599123+3694373482&Nr=AND%28product.locale%3Aen_CA_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ACA_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1647591780000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1647591780000%5D&view=all CSM https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer-40-000?N=1054272578+4033599123+2590967967&Nr=AND%28product.locale%3Aen_CA_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ACA_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1647592020000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1647592020000%5D&view=all EVERYONE PANIC! HIDE YOUR JUMPPACKS! Vesalius and BrainFireBob 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Inspirit Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 So guys dont want to cause any mass panic, but GW last chance to buy section has been updated, SM and CSM jump lords and captain are there, huron is there as well same as the warsmith. SM https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer-40-000?N=1054272578+4033599123+3694373482&Nr=AND%28product.locale%3Aen_CA_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ACA_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1647591780000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1647591780000%5D&view=all CSM https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Warhammer-40-000?N=1054272578+4033599123+2590967967&Nr=AND%28product.locale%3Aen_CA_gw%2Csku.siteId%3ACA_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1647592020000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1647592020000%5D&view=all Looks like jump pack units are indeed going away, at least the old ones. Primaris with jump packs are totally coming though, so who knows? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 So maybe that teased claw was Huron after all? Seemed too long for a marine size but admittedly can’t see the rest of the model. Shame about the chaos lords. Just doesn’t seem like there are replacements for what is being taken away in terms of options, but in the end maybe we’ll end up with a good codex, so let’s see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Yeah, Huron is odd to me, maybe we will see a new one. His current model is quite dated, so I'm not surprised that it's going out of circulation, but I would normally have thought they would wait until after the codex launch to do it. My speculation on those characters is that they sell the vast majority of them in proximity to the book launch, which is why lots like the Space Wolves ones, etc. were cycled out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 So maybe that teased claw was Huron after all? Seemed too long for a marine size but admittedly can’t see the rest of the model. Shame about the chaos lords. Just doesn’t seem like there are replacements for what is being taken away in terms of options, but in the end maybe we’ll end up with a good codex, so let’s see. The claw is a left-handed. Huron is missing the right side of his body. And it's not like Games Workshop doesn't care about their own lore, after all Dominion Zephon is a faithful representation of the character... except he has black hair... and wears Mark VI instead of III... and has a left foot prosthetic, when he's supposed to have a clawed right foot and prosthetic replacing his left thigh... Wait a minute. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Huron Gains a toughness,wound, attack & leadership His claw doubles his attacks instead of being a powerfist. My source doesnt have an image of huron but says that he believes it might be the flamer claw rumour engine. Vanger and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon303 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Has there ever been a precedent for GW mirroring their rumour pics? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate Khornate Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Has there ever been a precedent for GW mirroring their rumour pics? Not that I know of, but there is a precedent of them putting bionics in the wrong spots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldavf Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 So theory wise is there any reason other than cost to not take a terminator lord now?. The only reason I could see is because the unit he is supporting is in a rhino, but that means taking the over costed metal box in the first place. I think most people agree that for 80 points the rhino is way too expensive and much too high profile, it's not an easy model to hide. For me the options are: Just don't invest in a lord. Simply put if I cant make good use of him I wont add it to my list. He needs to be in melee turn 2 ideally and 3 at the latest so if I have no good way to deliver on foot I will pass in favor of something more useful. Termie lord in transport. I really don't like land raiders in the current environment, they are slow and with all the new dexes kinda squishy inspite of the profile, godhammer pattern lascannons are very basic and they cost a mountain of points. It's got nothing going for it and because more than 6 codexes use the land raider, it wont be buffed to usefulness until the new loyalist marine book drops (if at all). You have the option of forge world vehicles but most either compound all the problems the LR has or offer deep strike.Termie lord in deep strike. Probably the best option I think Night lords only need an 8 for the initial charge and with careful deployment you can set up for a sure fire turn 3 charge. We don't know what will be available to help charges (strats, traits, relics, point buy) but honestly this seems like the most efficient option at the moment. Or maybe i'm just salty idk Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon303 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Intrigued by some of these weapon restrictions, can see the box limits coming in obviously but some of the older ones like raptors seem almost less restrictive Up to 2 special weapons Up to 2 plasma pistols Champ can take plasma pistol There is three pistols and then one of each special in the box so you can certainly build all that from one box. I wonder if the specials will be one of each or whether we can take two plasmas. Two plasmas and three plasma pistols isn't bad to drop down. 7 plasma shots, hitting on 2s with exploding 5s for black legion. If Haarken now gives rerolls in shooting too that's pretty nice to fish for 5s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I guess it’s possible; my assumption would be that it’s an either/or but very much hope I’m wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Warsmith is going last chance to buy too hmmm *looks a chaos hammer picture.* Khornestar, Lord Abaia and Vesalius 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 A modern version of the warsmith would be beyond cool! SanguinaryGuardsman and Doctor Perils 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon303 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 There's no rules for a warsmith is there? People just use them as a lord of a warpsmith right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/55/#findComment-5805704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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