SanguinaryGuardsman Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Im glad Emperors Children still use this dex at the moment, bet when our turn comes around we will loose some of the juicy options like Vindicators just like the Death Guard did. Dear Slave to Darkness, Buy new models. sincerely, Games Workshop Dear GW. No. Sincerely, Someone who likes to be able to afford food. Seems like you are in for quite a bit of disappointment this new book. :( Slave to Darkness 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5806991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Im glad Emperors Children still use this dex at the moment, bet when our turn comes around we will loose some of the juicy options like Vindicators just like the Death Guard did. Dear Slave to Darkness, Buy new models. sincerely, Games Workshop Dear GW. No. Sincerely, Someone who likes to be able to afford food. Seems like you are in for quite a bit of disappointment this new book. Some stuff I like, some I am not to keen on. Still better than some of the more recent Chaos codex books we have had. Tbh the only thing I am really interested in is the Renegade/Cultist units. Waiting to pull the trigger on Khorne Guard but wanna see what the codex brings for mortal troops first. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5806992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Only CSM would get conditional rules for a beneficial buff like -1 to wound smh. Edited March 24, 2022 by MegaVolt87 Khornestar and Bulwyf 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volgon Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Very short teaser at the end of the Adepticon stream, but I did notice on the dataslate previewing 2W for Legionaries as only having 2 attacks, 3 attacks for the champion. Could just be because it's a teaser, or as the leaker has an early playtest version, 3 attacks base may not be a thing anymore. In this case, seems likely that Shock Assault will make a return. Edited March 24, 2022 by Volgon Khornestar and Sarges 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 That dataslate previewing 2W CSM also only had 1 Wound :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldavf Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Oddly power level 6? possibly because every unit can contain a psyker. at that stat like i expect them to be 18ppm but really they aren't worth more than 15ppm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I'm sad if CSM troops don't have 3 attacks base Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volgon Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) That dataslate previewing 2W CSM also only had 1 Wound The dataslate previewed as 1W and then changed to 2W in the video. Can see it yourself here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/24/a-glimpse-at-a-very-dark-future-from-adepticon/ and the statline stayed at 2 attacks on both versions. Edited March 24, 2022 by Volgon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldavf Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I'm sad if CSM troops don't have 3 attacks base 3 with a chainsword is still good and they can still fight twice for 60 total. It,s not all bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Ld9 confirmed Hathor42 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Edit: my thread didn't update so I hadn't noticed other people already posting this stuff :p Edited March 24, 2022 by acrozatarim Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 huh so what's the winged thing? A new demon prince wasn't mentioned. Will we get an option of giving possessed fly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesuVult Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I'm sad if CSM troops don't have 3 attacks base3 with a chainsword is still good and they can still fight twice for 60 total. It,s not all bad. 40 hit, 20 wound, 10 save. 5 marines dead using 10 marines and likely a minimum of 2 cp. There are marines with chainswords units that have 3 attacks on the charge and a 4th from the chainsword already and they are notably often underwhelming. Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I'm sad if CSM troops don't have 3 attacks base3 with a chainsword is still good and they can still fight twice for 60 total. It,s not all bad. 40 hit, 20 wound, 10 save. 5 marines dead using 10 marines and likely a minimum of 2 cp. There are marines with chainswords units that have 3 attacks on the charge and a 4th from the chainsword already and they are notably often underwhelming. Assault intercessors get honour the chapter (fight twice) which changes that outcome some. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So are we starting to discount these rumours as fake to some degree? Or at least that the playtester had an older version and GW decided that 3 attack chaos marines were too strong haha I wouldn't be surprised. The models look great and sadly I will be investing in possessed and the LatD :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith sargos Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So are we starting to discount these rumours as fake to some degree? Or at least that the playtester had an older version and GW decided that 3 attack chaos marines were too strong haha I wouldn't be surprised. The models look great and sadly I will be investing in possessed and the LatD why fake? leadership 9 - check the new name Legionaries - check 5-10 squad size -check kill team box - check it doesnt seem fake at all WrathOfTheLion, Clockworkchris and Plaguecaster 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Yeah ok maybe not fake but obviously an early copy. The 3 attack base chaos marines have been pushed pretty hard in these rumours and now we see that they are 2 attack base... Doesn't mean all is wrong here ofc but just doesn't mean to get emotional about this rule or that rule since they could have changed a lot from whatever our source was playtesting. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandviper Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Okay. Im going to need your guy to tell me if thats a new daemon prince model and what they look like. They need serious love compared to some of these creeped HQs. Trajan. Squigboy on a dinosaur. 10 attack succubus. Daemon princes need a ton of help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodOfHammers Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Yeah ok maybe not fake but obviously an early copy. The 3 attack base chaos marines have been pushed pretty hard in these rumours and now we see that they are 2 attack base... Doesn't mean all is wrong here ofc but just doesn't mean to get emotional about this rule or that rule since they could have changed a lot from whatever our source was playtesting. The teaser was also very obviously just showing that they were getting a second wound (which we already knew they would). It could be that they didn't want to reveal too much about the updated unit, so didn't change the attacks to the updated values. Just because one thing was wrong doesn't mean these rumours are fake. EDIT: I watched the reveal right after I woke up and didn't notice they changed the attacks from 1 -> 2, my b Edited March 24, 2022 by TheGodOfHammers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Chaos space marines currently only have 1 attack base; why show them with an updated 2 attacks in the teaser if they would actually be 3? I'm pretty sure what we saw there is the proper new chaos marine troop stat line, no further hidden surprises awaiting us there. Bulwyf, Plague _Lord and Khornestar 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Anything is possible but holding back the 3rd attack on the profile for a separate update or announcement doesn’t seem super likely. Seems more likely the rumors were wrong/attacks were dialed back. Edited March 24, 2022 by Khornestar TheGodOfHammers 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Nitpicking a single detail we're getting through a game of telephone on a copy of playtest rules is a bit odd. Obviously the vast majority of the information is coming to be correct, so that's pretty good given the circumstances. TheGodOfHammers, MegaVolt87, Khornestar and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Yeah by no means did I mean everything, just the attacks profile on legionaries. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 As long as they keep Hateful Assault then 2A isn't too much worse than 3A anyway. The quick-fire snippets of some models we saw have fired my excitement for some of the other stuff that's coming, regardless! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Those ash wastes models are going to make awesome NL cultists. Dr_Ruminahui, TheGodOfHammers, Marshal Mittens and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/61/#findComment-5807379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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