Toldavf Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Hi Chris, thanks for posting all the leaks, with the NL combat attrition things, do they stack? So if a units under half, add WT add strat, that would be running on 1,2,3,and 4? You missed the legion trait!. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Hi Chris, thanks for posting all the leaks, with the NL combat attrition things, do they stack? So if a units under half, add WT add strat, that would be running on 1,2,3,and 4? You missed the legion trait!. So that's a 5 as well then! -2 LD from legion add obligatory scary unit for -3LD at least and morale shenanigans are in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Thanks for all the info, Chris. I know it's only tangentially on topic for Codex: CSM, but does your source have any information on World Eaters? It's clear we're getting our own codex at some point, but what's going to happen in the meantime? Stick with the old codex? Get-you-by document? Gasp - a release before Codex: CSM? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Did i stutter?No but there is an echo in here. Hahaha, seriously i was just joking but the amount of times i get asked on dakkadakka, discord and B&C i juste stop answering the people validating or asking of info that is in the recap post I can see that happening every page of this thread. Imagine how mad everyone will be when some detail of the info you have relayed to us is not 100% accurate upon release. "YOU SAID NLs WOULD GET -2 LD BUT ITS ONLY -1 !!!!!11" etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldavf Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Did i stutter?No but there is an echo in here. Hahaha, seriously i was just joking but the amount of times i get asked on dakkadakka, discord and B&C i juste stop answering the people validating or asking of info that is in the recap post I can see that happening every page of this thread. Imagine how mad everyone will be when some detail of the info you have relayed to us is not 100% accurate upon release. "YOU SAID NLs WOULD GET -2 LD BUT ITS ONLY -1 !!!!!11" etc How dare you lie. REEEEEE! Anyway taking the rough with the smooth on these rumours, Thankyou very much for the teasers I think the community as a whole is appreciative. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 It looks like GW finally realized that they have designed and rehashed truly awful Relics and stratagems for several Legions for several codexes and supplements in a row over many years. About time that Black Legion, Night Lords, etc finally got a glow up from the garbage level stuff that kept getting recycled over several years. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 It looks like GW finally realized that they have designed and rehashed truly awful Relics and stratagems for several Legions for several codexes and supplements in a row over many years. About time that Black Legion, Night Lords, etc finally got a glow up from the garbage level stuff that kept getting recycled over several years. Amen brother Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 It looks like GW finally realized that they have designed and rehashed truly awful Relics and stratagems for several Legions for several codexes and supplements in a row over many years. About time that Black Legion, Night Lords, etc finally got a glow up from the garbage level stuff that kept getting recycled over several years. I really hope they make the Spineshiver blade good. It has a cool name and should be really evil in game. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) NL relic -stormbolt plate, infantry only, 2+ save and untargetable beyond 12" -vox daemonocus is infantry only I guess not having a jump pack will prevent a lord from getting close quickly, making that untargetable rule useful for more turns (in theory). Maybe lessen the need for screens in some situations, or allow for more options with movement and placement. Edited March 31, 2022 by Khornestar Toldavf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I really hope they make the Spineshiver blade good. It has a cool name and should be really evil in game. I'm hoping Black Legion keeps the World Killers Stratagem. Seems much more important than any other Relic / Stratagem. Being able to deny ObSec to your opponent would win a lot of games in 9th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) On the no-jump pack front, I'm hoping the Mindveil and Faceless Commander remain for Alphas. That'll give us some manner of extra mobility at least. Edited March 31, 2022 by Iron Father Ferrum Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I really hope they make the Spineshiver blade good. It has a cool name and should be really evil in game. I'm hoping Black Legion keeps the World Killers Stratagem. Seems much more important than any other Relic / Stratagem. Being able to deny ObSec to your opponent would win a lot of games in 9th. Wouldnt surprise me if it turned into a targetted ability for 1cp against one enemy unit. Also wouldnt surprise me if it just allows BL to give a non obsec unit obsec. Its current form seems out of line with 9th edition... as it is fairly clunky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5809927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandviper Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Sitting patiently, eagerly awaiting any information on daemon princes! Warsmith sargos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith sargos Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Sitting patiently, eagerly awaiting any information on daemon princes! like my kids when they wake up 06:00 on Saturdays Sandviper and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaM_TW Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 What about Fabius Bile, is he still in the codex and what are the chamges? This. Unless I missed it during the last few pages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 AL dump this morning AL strats -the sabotage strat is now auto explode -fall back and shoot -12" deepstrike denial -shoot a unit that deepstrikes nearby -forward operatives, pregame move -conceal is replaced with untargetable beyond 12" Khornestar, TheGodOfHammers, Iron Father Ferrum and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 AL WLT -sniper warlord trait -redeploy for up to 3.units -a cultist buff -i am alpharius is still there No news on the other warlord traits TheGodOfHammers, Khornestar and Iron Father Ferrum 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 And for relics -one turn for battle ennemy strats cost +1cp on a 4+ (still there) - power sword with dd3 and causes -1 to hit (GONE) -bolt weapons wounds on +2(except vehicules and titanic), ignores cover (still there) -the combi bolter relic must be gone since no way foe HQ to get combis (GONE, no surprises there) -+2 armor, and transhuman - armor with 3d6 movemebt that can "ghostwalk" through units (still there) Khornestar, TheGodOfHammers and Iron Father Ferrum 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith sargos Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 -the combi bolter relic must be gone since no way foe HQ to get combis (GONE, no surprises there) well they still have combi bolters for Terminators-lord/sorcerer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 -the combi bolter relic must be gone since no way foe HQ to get combis (GONE, no surprises there) well they still have combi bolters for Terminators-lord/sorcerer True forgot about that one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Prayers -basic prayer still reroll all hits in melee -+1 to wound in melee - -1to hit (REPLACED) Now it is 1-3 hits always fail, no rerolls allowed - 6" aura when doing leadership test roll 2d6 discard the highest & fail action & fight last -+1 to hit (gone) -5++ buble is gone you said (gone) -priest het +2a(was +3) and ap2 (was ap4) on weapon And for god specifics -+d3 wounds (gone) -advance and charge (still there) -S+2 (gone) -T+2 (gone) TheGodOfHammers 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith sargos Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Ohh we clowns now TheGodOfHammers 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DO_IT_TO_IT Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Prayers - -1to hit (REPLACED) Now it is 1-3 hits always fail, no rerolls allowed Wow, that one seems pretty good.. Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandviper Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 So. About those word bearers or red corsairs possessed with apostles running up the board.....NUTTY. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Prayers - -1to hit (REPLACED) Now it is 1-3 hits always fail, no rerolls allowed Wow, that one seems pretty good.. Probably core locked... wouldnt want that on a leviathan dread would we? Could put it on 10 man brick of MoN terminators and combine it with Transnurgle physiology. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/70/#findComment-5810173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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