40k NL poster boy who would you pick?

[Noctem Cultor]

Greetings Brothers,

 

Just for fun, who would you pick from official GW lore/novels etc to become the named character for 40k?

 

Seeing as the loyalists get 1 named character like the did with the last Primaris splash, I thought it would be cool to see who you would pick for the Night Lords?

 

Me personally id like to see Decimus the end product of First claw, he has potential but not enough to unite the legion like someone like Servitar could do.

 

-Noctem

[Tallarn Commander]

If we could pick dead people I'd go with Talos. :)

 

Otherwise Decimus would indeed be fun--it would be interesting to see if he could unite at least some of the NL warbands.

[Galron]

The Painted Count

[Shovellovin]

I think any of the members of First Claw would be good additions but like Tallarn Commander, I'd prefer if Talos was picked.

[Tawnis]

Does Fel Zharost count?  I guess that would be more 30k. 

[lansalt]

It has to be Decimus. Talos died before the Great Rift happened.

[Kaldoth]

I can't decide :lol: So:

 

1. Decimus. As far as introducing a new character to the current setting, Decimus would be perfect. Another named non-primarch Psyker besides Ahriman and Typhus would be awesome for Chaos. Plus, his wargear is super thematic.

 

2. Sevatar. He was never *technically* confirmed killed. GW does like their loopholes to bring characters back :rolleyes: If the lore for his return were handled by the correct pair of hands, I'd love to see him make a comeback.

[MegaVolt87]

I consider Talos a failure, he had his whole warband killed because he didn't like what they always were while ironically setting up the next generation to be exactly the same as what he hated. The apothecary was under no illusions to Konrads core philosophy as Talso interoperated it, so the new generation of the warband will be once again drifting away from what Talos vision is of the NL. Better to make an entirely new character if there isn't a suitable 30k character who survived into 40k to use. I would use demon prince Krieg if I had to pick a existing character, he could be like a mini primarch for the NL's and he is one of the top leaders in the 40k setting for NL's. 

[Kelborn]

My vote would be for Decimus.

 

We saw him gathering the different leaders of the NL. He's the new prophet which does give him a special role within the ranks of the Legion.

And he's pure. The 8th was mostly about staying pure and keeping chaos + corruption away from them. So I'd say a "normal" Marine would be more of a poster boy than a daemon prince.

 

Or (of course) Sevatar. We k ow that Aaron still has some plans and ideas along with John and we haven't seen those. Perhaps (if we're lucky) he'll be present in the current timeline. Being the only person able to unify and control the Legion, it would make sense to make him the new poster boy like other chapter masters have become their respective chapter ones like Kantor or Shrike.

[Khornestar]

My vote would be for Decimus.

 

We saw him gathering the different leaders of the NL. He's the new prophet which does give him a special role within the ranks of the Legion.

And he's pure. The 8th was mostly about staying pure and keeping chaos + corruption away from them. So I'd say a "normal" Marine would be more of a poster boy than a daemon prince.

 

Or (of course) Sevatar. We k ow that Aaron still has some plans and ideas along with John and we haven't seen those. Perhaps (if we're lucky) he'll be present in the current timeline. Being the only person able to unify and control the Legion, it would make sense to make him the new poster boy like other chapter masters have become their respective chapter ones like Kantor or Shrike.

 

Good arguments for both characters. After that I'm not sure which of the two I'd pick but my initial thought was also Decimus. I think more than anything I want to see the awesome and horrific Night Lords details in modern plastic sculpts, and both characters would be good ways of doing that.

[JimVandy85]

My vote would be for Decimus.

 

We saw him gathering the different leaders of the NL. He's the new prophet which does give him a special role within the ranks of the Legion.

And he's pure. The 8th was mostly about staying pure and keeping chaos + corruption away from them. So I'd say a "normal" Marine would be more of a poster boy than a daemon prince.

 

Or (of course) Sevatar. We k ow that Aaron still has some plans and ideas along with John and we haven't seen those. Perhaps (if we're lucky) he'll be present in the current timeline. Being the only person able to unify and control the Legion, it would make sense to make him the new poster boy like other chapter masters have become their respective chapter ones like Kantor or Shrike.

Agree with either Decimus or Sev. We don't know exactly what happened to sev at the end of the heresy. Plus it would interesting for him to make a come back and unify the Night Lords.

[Valkia the Bloody]

I also vote for Sevatar.

They brought Guilliman back, so Sevatar should not be a problem. :p

He is just a great villain, full of sarcasm and snark, he would also be great in the lore.

Plus, if he unites the Night Lords, they could become more of a threat to the already doomed universe.

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

I really don't think Sevatar back in 40k would change the legion that significantly. The only Night Lords organization that was unified solely by Sevatar was the Atramentar. He didn't unite the legion during the Thramas Crusade when he had the Kyroptera split their forces between them, he made sure they survived. And that difference is displayed by the fact that not all of the VIIIth Legion fought on Terra but chose to pillage the wider Galaxy instead. After ten millennia I feel his return would only lead the Atramentar to flock to him, since we're so splintered right now. Regardless of leadership, at the end of the day we lack the discipline to really follow anyone, except maybe Curze and only barely.

[Bulwyf]

I am torn on this. I want to see story wise more of Decimus. He would be an awesome character to play and was fated to reunite the 8th legion. 

 

I also am a fan of the Painted Count. He is cunning, arrogant and oh yeah, he's now a demon prince. So him having a model with his demon sword making him an absolutely filthy melee specialist. So I would like to see him as well.

About Sevatar...I love Sev. But the fluff has enough clues to show that he is the original chapter master of the Space Sharks. Sev and Curze had visions of Sev leading grey clad marines loyal to the Imperium fighting in the deep void against xenos, mutants and traitors. The Space Sharks have Night Lords and Raven Guard mixed gene seed. A great deal of the equipment and ships date back to the Great Crusade/Heresy timeline. Their founding chapter master is called the Forgotten One and no one knows in the Sharks who it was. Every clue points to Sevatar including the last story with Sevatar in it where he basically says he's leaving the Heresy conflict to go out and defend humanity from the xenos and the deep dark. I mean....it really isn't that hard to connect dots on this to see that Sevatar's fate doesn't end with the Night Lords but it started over with the Space Sharks. Who, I might add, are absolutely awesome in their fluff and how they look. I have a Shark army to be fair as well as a NL army.

 

So for that reason I can't really support Sevatar in current 40k timeline. Decimus or the Painted Count. If they did bring Sevatar back in the current timeline and had him uniting the 8th I'm totally on board with that as well. 

[Brother Nihm]

Sahaal would be my choice, or Acerbus Krieg.

[Isengrin]

Sahaal would be my choice, or Acerbus Krieg.

Krieg Acerbus would be amazing. A Night Lords daemon prince with a gigantic axe? Sign me up! But if we ever get our own character I doubt it would be a daemon prince. Zso Sahaal could be interesting, too, although the one dude I'd be hoping for the most is Lucoryphus, followed by somebody like Tarraq Darkblood or a completely new one...like a terminator lord similar to Kthelmir from the 3.5 codex. It would be fun to start a new chapter of the NL story with a new character.

[Petitioner's City]

I am curious about the named night lords mentioned in the various source books - the master of possession, the warlords, etc. Each is entirely representable with the rules but also suggest new directions in some instances.

 

However, I'd love Decimus with Variel - and I keep hoping we hear something of them one day

[Xenith]

Decimus would be a contender, but he isn't really fleshed out as much as other characters from BL books that have had models made for them (Zephon, the ultramarine one whose name escapes me). ADB would have to be involved to builk him out a bit so we have an idea of his abilities etc. The painted count might be cool (he's the one thrown from the walls by Raldoron, right?), but he's more a nobody. I doubt GW will also want to make a special character daemon prince that would be larger than abaddon. Fitting with the NL meme, it would probably be someone with a jump pack and twin claws, due to laziness, but also theme. Variel would be cool and off the wall as a support character, like Bile - except instead of improving your own troops, he debuffs the opposing troops. 

[Balthamal]

Decimus is the only one really that jumps out from the crowd. Sahaal and Acerbus have had some screen time but that was so long ago that it barely even counts any more. The main issue is that other Legions "big" characters - Ahriman/Typhon/Lucius/Khârn were all prominent in the HH series so there's interest generated in them recently. The Night Lord's most popular character Sevatar, doesn't follow the same trajectory. Talos, well, everyone knows about Talos at this point and why he's unsuitable. So unless we're spoiled and someone at BL gives a Night Lord the full treatment, we're going to be left relying on GW and their imaginative naming conventions like "Worldclaimer"

[Xenith]

The main issue is that other Legions "big" characters - Ahriman/Typhon/Lucius/Khârn were all prominent in the HH series so there's interest generated in them recently. 

 

These guys were also special characters and had a background before the HH series began, so any NL character is going to have to be built from the ground up, and will invariably displease some fans. 

 

As much as I hate the cliche, CSM *are* missing a JP character (outside Harkon). A dynamically posed NL character, the model posed like a mini-Curze would hit the right notes.

[Balthamal]

 

The main issue is that other Legions "big" characters - Ahriman/Typhon/Lucius/Khârn were all prominent in the HH series so there's interest generated in them recently. 

 

These guys were also special characters and had a background before the HH series began, so any NL character is going to have to be built from the ground up, and will invariably displease some fans. 

 

As much as I hate the cliche, CSM *are* missing a JP character (outside Harkon). A dynamically posed NL character, the model posed like a mini-Curze would hit the right notes.

 

 

It's been 20+ years but I'm pretty sure that Lucius and Typhus were first introduced in the 3.5 dex - at least I don't remember anything at all about them appearing prior to that so introducing characters through a dex isn't a bad thing per say, but they'll definitely need more fleshing out. The surviving Kyroptera from Prince of Crows wouldn't be a terrible shout. Especially as you say for a JP character to build on the fact the HH PA praetor has one

[Isengrin]

Yep, Lucius and Typhus were fresh additions to the character roster in the 3.5 codex, each with one page to them. I found them really interesting back then despite their short characterization and lack of any other material. Fleshing them out in heresy books only helped in that regard. Maybe doing it the other way around and picking up a character from the HH series will lead to a well received character, too.

[Balthamal]

I think either way could work, providing a strong platform is laid at the outset. GW have a ream of prior form when it comes to creating compelling characters that fall apart because of how badly they're done at the very beginning. See Haarkon, Krannon among many others

[Hathor42]

Yeah all the major space marine chapters each got a special character legio should too. I was hoping for little supplement books but with the leaks saying each legion gets 8 relics and a bunch of warlord traits I'm guessing we'll lose out and just have abaddon, huron, lucius, fabius, the jump pack guy (who was a nightlord I guess though now black legion boo) and cypher.

[Paradigm]

I’m totally good with Decimus or Sevatar. Sevatar wasn’t the first chapter master of the space sharks, they also do not have mixed geneseed.

 

The first chapter master of the Charcharodons was Shade Lord Arkhas Fal, legion master of the 19th legion that Corax had beef with. There is fanon (that won’t seem to go away) out there that the space sharks were mixed geneseed, but that is purely fanon, with no actual fluff that backs it, and lots of fluff that says they are pre-corax Raven Guard.

 

The only way they might have some mixed geneseed, is if the much larger Ashen Claws warband used the captured Night Lord geneseed during the purging of the Nostramo Sector, back when they established their pocket empire in the ghoul stars. They do trade recruits with the space sharks on occasion as they both descended from nomad predation fleets of Terran 19th legionaries. But there was a ton of ashen claws and relatively few night lord defenders that could have defected or had their geneseed stolen.

 

Decimus or a new character with a relic chain glaive and Volkite Serpenta or Charger in a pose similar to Sevatar would be rad. Spiritual embodiment/successor as “the” NL character 10k years later. Double cool if there is an optional jump pack similar to how they handled Ahriman’s disk for ksons.

 

It might be best if they use a new character entirely really. Few if any Night Lord book protagonists really embody the legion, they are always a little delusional about what the Night Lords were and are. Sevatar would probably be disgusted with the state of the legion. Decimus, while really cool has only a little more fluff than a new character would and I’d like to hear ADB’s take on him more than the studio’s in general.