[UM] 2K of Ultramarine Successors - critiques welcome!

[Scrapknight]

Hey all,

 

Now that I have a fair bit more experience with the game (went over 50% in a couple local tourneys, woo!) I've been thinking how I want to expand my 1K list into 2K. This is a rough outline I have. We play 1K more often than 2K at my local store, but they're opening up to doing more 2K games and I want to get ready for that.

 

This is kinda midway between hyper-competitive and fluffy. I'm for example running Warded when Whirlwind of Rage is definitely better (though honestly Warded isn't awful in my meta either) and am not super stoked about playing triple Redemptors + triple Relic Contemptors. At the same time, I want it to be a good version of itself, just ideally while avoiding spamming only the best thing in the codex.

 

The basic idea is to make a big shooty gunline castle with some mobility and forward deploying units to score Engage/ROD, take objectives early, etc. I'm going for a more infantry-based list with an Apothecary, but I'm not opposed to taking more dreads.

 

I usually take Oaths of Moment, Engage or ROD based on what makes the most sense, and a killing objective tailored to the opponent. I take Raise Banners fairly frequently too.

I'd like to keep things Primaris as much as possible, but I've converted a "Primaris" attack bike so that's not a crazy strict requirement. I'd be more willing to bend the Ultima Founding lore for a dread or character than a big unit of Devastators in drop pods.

 

Other things I've noticed / been thinking about:

- Aggressors are kinda mediocre but I own them and I do genuinely want some strong units that can hold their own in the midfield. Should I take just 1 or 2 units of Bladeguard instead?

- The bike chaplain is definitely better, but since I own the foot chaplain and he's mostly for buffing, do I actually need him?

- Should I reduce the number of Intercessors? I want 1 ten man squad to double tap with Rapid Fire but there's a lot of points locked up in there.

- Not sure I have enough heavy anti-tank. Suggestions?

 

Anyway, thanks for your time! Here's the list:

 

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Argent Eagles, 2000 Points

 

 

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Ultramarines) [96 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

**Chapter Selector**: Custom Chapter, Master Artisans, Ultramarines Successor, Warded

 

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) 

 

Detachment Command Cost

 

Gametype: Matched

 

+ Stratagems +

 

Strategem: Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics

 

+ HQ +

 

Chapter Master with Master-crafted Heavy Bolt Rifle [8 PL, -1CP, 145pts]: Adept of the Codex, Angel Artifice, Chapter Command:  Chapter Master, Storm of Fire, Stratagem: Exemplar of the Chapter, Warlord

 

Primaris Chaplain [6 PL, -1CP, 110pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, 5. Recitation of Focus, Chapter Command:  Master of Sanctity, Litany of Hate, Seal of Oath, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Wise Orator

 

+ Troops +

 

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

 

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 205pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle

. 9x Intercessor: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades

. Intercessor Sergeant

 

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 200pts]: Bolt rifle

. 9x Intercessor: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades

. Intercessor Sergeant

 

+ Elites +

 

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 135pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant

. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

 

Bladeguard Veteran Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 2x Bladeguard Veteran: 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Master-crafted power sword, 2x Storm Shield

. Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol

 

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [8 PL, 160pts]: Twin ironhail autocannon

 

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [8 PL, 160pts]: Twin ironhail autocannon

 

Primaris Apothecary [5 PL, -1CP, 115pts]: Chapter Command:  Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

 

Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Attack Bike Squad [4 PL, 120pts]

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

 

Inceptor Squad [7 PL, 180pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant, Plasma Exterminator x2

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 75pts]: Bolt sniper rifle

. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle

. 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades

 

++ Total: [96 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++

 

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