Majkhel Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) What do you guys think? Will we get JPs for Primaris CC-units in 2022? That would be a huge step towards Primarised SG and even Dante!Snips from the WH40k:Space Marine 2 game trailer: To be honest, After seeing that I'm now wondering how firmly I attached regular backpacks to my Assault Intercessors... Edited December 10, 2021 by Majkhel Spyros and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Hm since Space Marine is officially licensed and GW is usually very careful with what kind of units are shown in their products these days I'd say the possibility is definitely there. At the very least for a Lieutenant if nothing else. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5771185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 From the Warhammer Community post - they're new for Space Marine 2, but hopefully we see it elsewhere!  "n fact, you won’t have seen it anywhere before, because it’s a brand-new pattern designed by the Warhammer Design Studio for the Mk X Tacticus armour used in Space Marine 2. " Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5771350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Not too excited myself. Would be helpful if they had a JP sprue you can buy separate but it just means more FOMO for the next box set and I'm just not excited by that prospect. Majkhel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5771354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 If we got any melee jump infantry I'd want melee inceptors. They could easily fix/rewrite reivers grav-chutes to count as grav packs so they could be considered jump packs. I still don't understand why they haven't done this. Make the grappling hooks, which are terrible do something else, or act as jump packs. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangomatic82 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 If they used the introduction of JP's to streamline the datasheet bloat, that would be interesting. Consolidate (First Born)Assault Squads and Intercessor Assault Squads into a single datasheet, so the only difference is a matter of aesthetic.  I'm not sure a Inceptor melee unit would be overly useful for us BA specifically. It would already be competing with VV's, DC and SG, so I'm not too sure what design space they would fill for us. Other chapters like BT and WS's maybe. What kind of weapon profile would they need in order to differentiate from what we already have? we already know what the datasheet would look like, maybe not any data sheet abilities GW would tack on to trigger FOMO and move product, but maybe a fight twice mechanism inbuilt so they dont use up CP.  Melee Inceptor - 3-6 M10"/WS3+/BS3+/S4/T5/W3/A2/Ld7/Sv3+ Weapons ?????? (Primaris Heavy Thunder Hammer) - Melee - Sx2 - Ap-4 - D4 - Abilities - minus 1 to hit  Abilities Angels of Death, Combat Squad, Death from Above, (Inevitable Fight twice because Primaris) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Inceptors with melee weapons look goofy as can be. The posing just doesn't work, looks like it would just haplessly attempt to wave around its arms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Inceptors with melee weapons look goofy as can be. The posing just doesn't work, looks like it would just haplessly attempt to wave around its arms. They could take a leaf out of the Angry Marine's book and take power feet to stomp the Emperor's enemies to death! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Inceptors with melee weapons look goofy as can be. The posing just doesn't work, looks like it would just haplessly attempt to wave around its arms.I disagree. Aggressors are sneakily strong melee beasts. Inceptors would look just fine with dual wielding power swords or claws or insert melee option. There are so many good options from the generalized primaris, that they stand alone well and take nothing away from the identity of each chapter. Edited January 23, 2022 by Dont-Be-Haten Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 To me it's the pose that doesn't work. Since they're all floaty, with the boots, they just can't convey force that well. In my mind, it just doesn't look threatening and something about it doesn't work for me. Blindhamster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 tend to agree, would need totally new models Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 tend to agree, would need totally new models Isn't that kind of what they did with assault intercessors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Yeah, but at that point, they should give everyone what they want, which is a squad of what was in the SM 2 trailer. Blindhamster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Indeed, having seen the design, I want a unit like it, mostly tacticus but with a a jump pack that’s not quite the shrike one and not quite the classic one plus ankle thrusters, i would love for it to be a fairly hard hitting unit. But I’d also be down for it being one with movement shenanigans tbh (elites and fast attack respectively) WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The ankle thrusters aren't my favorite design choice, but I'm not exactly against them either. They don't make or break the design for me, they're just there. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Gravis is the way for me. Love the design so much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 We all have different tastes, Gravis is okay, but just doesn't quite do it for me. I rather like the inceptors, but I just cannot envision them attempting melee combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 i like gravis a lot (a lot more than terminators personally - especially with the updates to its design in more recent gravis kits). However I do not really like the inceptor design and feel like it its a bit too blunt hammer looking for what i want out of jump infantry - especially for my boys in red who i always view as having an element of grace and agility. WrathOfTheLion, Paladin777, Helias_Tancred and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Inceptors suffer a bit from being one of the first Primaris kits and I would say that their design needs some refinement. The main thing about them that I dislike is that while they do have all the Space Marine's walking-tank chunkyness that we like, they also somehow feel like :PThey look like what they basically are - gunboats. Heavy Intercessors Gravis designs feel much more CC-capable, but I would definitely like to see Tacticus JP variant in this role. Blindhamster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Would be helpful if they had a JP sprue you can buy separate  Like this?  https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Jump-Packs painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5787912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangomatic82 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 What role should these potential primaris jump pack units have? Hoard Mulchers? Elite Killers? Tank Busters? Tricky objective grabbers and action monkeys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5788068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I’d like either a fast hard hitting melee unit or a super mobile objective scorer, so as stated above, either good weapon options and damage dealing rules on elites or okay weapon options and movement shenanigans in fast attack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5788172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Soooooo, with new "Gravis Fighting Styles" (https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/0Cd856c5Bsgn60gu.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3QQwu3daXKEHKc0nUqgA_Qyfs0Z25UgrdeDm3E2VxGLuVjNW3W7thpRfw) will we be getting CC Inceptors after all?  Daydreaming: Not entirely sure about the "up to a maximum of 3" rule, but would dual-chainsword build would let them dish out like 37 attack on the charge (43 in Assault doctrine) for a 6-man squad if I count that right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5789748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Given gravis armour seems to be pointing at surviving in the thickest fighting/dealing with the most dangerous enemies I'd hope for an elite killer style unit, perhaps flamestorm gauntlet and chainsword or something, with an option to swap out sword for a storm shield? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5789792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Or for giggles, maybe an inferno pistol option on the boltstorm fist for BA's... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372581-jps-for-primaris-cc-units-in-2022/#findComment-5789794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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