2000pt Black Templars

[Dusktiger]

So i'll start off with the caveat that this is based off of the models i own, and its centered mainly on personal aesthetics of the models, rather than making it most-effective in tournament play, since i don't do the tournament scene anymore.  Most of this army is being built to collect a fluffy army that suits the new kits.

 

 

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP [74 PL, -2CP, 1,476pts] ++

 

+ Stratagems +

 

Stratagem: Revered Repositories [-1CP] (First Primaris Crusader Squad)

Stratagem: Champion of the Feast [-1CP] (First Primaris Crusader Squad)

 

+ HQ +

 

Chaplain Grimaldus [7 PL, 140pts]: Plasma pistol, Artificer Crozius, Litany of Hate, 3x Cenobyte Servitors

 

High Marshal Helbrecht [8 PL, 160pts]: Ferocity, Sword of the High Marshals, Attendant Thrall's Fists, Warlord; Frontline Commander

 

The Emperor's Champion [5 PL, 100pts]: Bolt Pistol, Black Sword

 

+ Troops +

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]:

. 1x Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Auto Bolt Rifle

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]:

. 1x Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Auto Bolt Rifle

 

Primaris Crusader Squad [11 PL, -2CP, 213pts]:

. 1x Primaris Sword Brother: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Sword of Judgement, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Fist of Balthus, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Power fist, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 3x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 4x Primaris Neophytes: Bolt Pistol, Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades

 

Primaris Crusader Squad [11 PL, 218pts]:

. 1x Primaris Sword Brother: Pyre Pistol, Power axe, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Beastpyre, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Pyreblaster, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 3x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 4x Primaris Neophytes: Astartes Shotgun, Frag & Krak Grenades

 

+ Elites +

 

Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist

 

Veteran Intercessor Squad [6 PL, 110pts]

. 1x Veteran Intercessor Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, Frag & Krak Grenades

. 4x Veteran Intercessor: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak Grenades

 

+ Dedicated Transport +

 

Impulsor [7 PL, 150pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Bellicatus Missile Array, Multi-melta

 

 

 

 

 

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Black Templars) [25 PL, -2CP, 515pts] ++

 

+ Agents of the Imperium +

 

Vindicare Assassin [5 PL, 100pts]: Blind Grenades, Exitus Pistol, Exitus Rifle

 

+ HQ +

 

Primaris Castellan [4 PL, 85pts]: Bolt pistol, Combi-flamer, Master-crafted Power Axe

 

Primaris Marshal [5 PL, 100pts]: Auto-flamer, Master-crafted Power Axe, Tannhauser's Bones

 

+ Troops +

 

Heavy Intercessor Squad [7 PL, 150pts]:

. 1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Executor Bolt Rifle

. 1x Heavy Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Executor Heavy Bolter

. 3x Heavy Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Executor Bolt Rifle

 

+ Elites +

 

Primaris Apothecary [4 PL, 80pts]: Absolver Bolt Pistol, Reductor Pistol

 

++ Total: [99 PL, 8CP, 1,991pts] ++

[Brother Kraskor]

Some nice fluffy stuff here (the big three HQs and flame Crusader squad especially). I think there's a couple things you can do to make it perform better though.

 

Fist of Balthus is wasted on an Initiate. Consider downgrading your Veteran Intercessors to Assault Intercessors, then give Fist of Balthus to the Sergeant. You can spend 2CP to fight twice with the unit, suddenly that small unit has a potentially very high damage output. These would then be a good candidate to ride in the Impulsor (maybe with the EC?). 

 

You really want to upgrade to a Chief Apothecary and get Selfless Healer WL trait. Maybe cut the Assassin (not very fluffy BT anyway! ) to pay for this and then you have some spare points to spread around.

 

More generally the list lacks anti-tank. I know you said you're using your collection and that's totally fair enough, if you wanted to squeeze in some more AT though you could drop the two HQs in the Patrol, fold the Patrol into the Battalion and take a second Redemptor with the same loadout. (This would also save 2CP to spend on Fight Twice for the Assault Intercessors!)

Edited December 27, 2021 by Brother Kraskor

[Dusktiger]

I did consider putting the Balthus on the sergeant like you suggested, but it came down to 2 points that i couldn't get past on account of my own stubborn quirks with modelling armies.  The first, being that i like pairing up weapons in units; as shown with the pyreblasters and power fists.  The second, being that i really want all my sergeants to be wielding either a sword or axe to fit in with the classic artwork.  I know it doesn't make them as cost effective or killy as they could be, but it's an aesthetic choice i can't help myself over.

 

So because of that, I took a long look at making the assault unit just basic, or as the veteran option, and just paying 2pts per model for an extra base attack and Leadership really seemed like a no brainer.  But if i was to throw the fist of balthus on any sergeants, i'd keep them veteran intercessors so that the fist became 4 attacks base.  Part of the problem is that squad is already built, and i converted an extra marshal i had into the sergeant, so it'd be a pain to break apart the model to swap out the wargear.  So until i get around to buying spare bits to make alternate models for wargear loadouts, i don't wanna mess with that too much.

 

The patrol detachment...yeah, i got nothing there; that was just a means of fielding everything i own since you can't have all the HQs i have (which also includes an Indomitus Chaplain)  I thought about not putting the vindicare in there and just using the aux detachment to field the lone chaplain, but...yeah.  

 

I don't know if any of them would be effective, or fluffy, but i do have the following in my unbuilt pile of shame i could fiddle with:

5 incursors

5 Infiltrators

3 Suppressors

3 Eliminators

 

is any of those worth swapping out with the vindicare?

 

edit:

I could also swap in a Sword Brethren unit, as i was thinking of making a box of them, but dont have one yet.  dropping the vindicare, and taking 4 of them with a thunderhammer, pair of claws, 1 power sword, and 1 chainsword brings the list to 2000pts even.

Edited December 29, 2021 by Dusktiger

[Brother Kraskor]

Sword Brethren definitely fluffier than a sniper assassin! And totally fair enough re: things being modelled already, the hobby isn't just armylists after all. 

 

RE: the units you listed, I know people used to look favourably on Incursors as our Troops choice for forward deployment but it really depends on the list. You have enough Troops anyway so go SBs I would. 

[Dusktiger]

So i looked at the list once more, having made some changes to my HQ choices, and rearranging some mostly-assembled models to convert them into just fancy sergeants (ie the marshals).  This opened up enough of the list to change some stuff and add in 2 more units i originally wanted but didnt have the room for.  so now the list looks like this:

 

 

++ Battalion Detachment [98 PL, 9/12 CP, 1,998pts] ++

 

+ Stratagems +

 

Stratagem: Revered Repositories [-1CP] (Primaris Crusader Squad 'Albrecht')

Stratagem: Champion of the Feast [-1CP] (Primaris Crusader Squad 'Albrecht')

Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP] (The Emperor's Champion)

 

+ HQ +

 

Chaplain Grimaldus [7 PL, 140pts]: Plasma pistol, Artificer Crozius, Litany of Hate, 3x Cenobyte Servitors

 

High Marshal Helbrecht [8 PL, 160pts]: Ferocity, Sword of the High Marshals, Attendant Thrall's Fists

 

The Emperor's Champion [5 PL, -1 CP 100pts]: Bolt Pistol, Black Sword, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter (Paragon of Fury)

 

+ Troops +

 

Heavy Intercessor Squad [7 PL, 150pts]:

. 1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Executor Bolt Rifle

. 1x Heavy Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Executor Heavy Bolter

. 3x Heavy Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Executor Bolt Rifle

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 110pts]:

. 1x Intercessor Sergeant: Plasma Pistol, Power Sword

. 4x Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Auto Bolt Rifle

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]:

. 1x Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Auto Bolt Rifle, Power Sword

. 4x Intercessor: Bolt Pistol, Auto Bolt Rifle

 

Primaris Crusader Squad 'Albrecht' [11 PL, -2CP, 213pts]:

. 1x Primaris Sword Brother: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Sword of Judgement

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Fist of Balthus

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Power fist

. 3x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Astartes Chainsword

. 4x Primaris Neophytes: Bolt Pistol, Astartes Chainsword

 

Primaris Crusader Squad [11 PL, 218pts]:

. 1x Primaris Sword Brother: Pyre Pistol, Power axe

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Beastpyre

. 1x Primaris Initiate: Pyreblaster

. 3x Primaris Initiate: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Astartes Chainsword

. 4x Primaris Neophytes: Astartes Shotgun

 

+ Elites +

 

Bladeguard Veteran Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted Power Sword, Storm Shield

. 2x Bladeguard Veteran: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted Power Sword, Storm Shield

 

Primaris Chief Apothecary [5 PL, 115pts]: Reductor Pistol, Relic: Acquittal, Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Warlord: Selfless Healer

 

Primaris Sword Brethren Squad [7 PL, 117pts]

. Primaris Sword Brethren: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Lightning Claw (Pair)

. Primaris Sword Brethren: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer

. Primaris Sword Brethren: Plasma pistol, Power sword

. Primaris Sword Brethren: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Power sword

 

Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist

 

Veteran Intercessor Squad [6 PL, 130pts]

. 1x Veteran Intercessor Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Power Sword

. 4x Veteran Intercessor: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder Hammer

 

+ Dedicated Transport +

 

Impulsor [7 PL, 150pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Bellicatus Missile Array, Multi-melta

 

 

++ Total: [98 PL, 9CP, 1,998pts] ++

Edited January 2, 2022 by Dusktiger