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Hi I’m Casual Heresy, and I’m a hobby butterfly. And that’s okay. Afternoon all. A combination of the forum upgrades and downtime from catching Nurgle’s blessing (covid) for the first time means I’m finally going to start the WiP log I’ve always meant to start. I love space marines of all types so always have multiple projects on the go. Currently, I’m focussing on Black Templar reinforcements for the August Throne of Skulls at Warhammer Workd with heresy era ultramarines in the background. But various other armies and one off projects will pop up over time. Currently I’m about to finish the first of two Redemptors for my Templars, and a Contemptor I finished yesterday is waiting on tufts. After that there is only Grimaldus and his boy band, a Primaris Techmarine and Castellan to go.

I couldn't find anything definitive online or in my old codicies, but if Black Templar Phobos Marines and sneaky Eliminators are a thing, it stands to reason that there would be sneaky Scouts. (Beyond those lucky guys who get tossed into Crusader Squads in the worst job shadowing assignment ever.) Am I off base on this?

So I love the horus heresy setting, but can only really afford one space marine army. I got most of my black templars wearing Mark III, Mark IV or mark VI pattern armor with only a few mark 7's... along with the all black color scheme. How acceptable is it to have a space marine army from the scouring, after the chapter split? Idea is to have this force represent the time from the codex crisis to the first black crusade, use Imperial Fist rules, and be a largely armored force. Thoughts?

A bit of pre-amble. This would be my third attempt at making a black templars crusade, with my first being trying to copy the box art of 3rd edition all those years ago with inexperience and the second a bit more than a year ago with the dark grey with multiple black washes method. I didn't really like it apart from taking ages to do so now I've tried something new. Hence the thread title. As back up I've got a metallic and plain black spray too. So as a starting point I've made 5 initiates of a crusader squad from of various kits and bits and have a sword brethren terminator squad made of deathwing knights and black templar shields and pads in construction. And here we are. What are people's opinions? Is it too glossy? Of course this means that highlighting it will be very different and I'm not too sure how that will go. And as for fluff, I haven't got any yet. So a hello to the sub forum.

"lost in the warp for 11 years" EDIT: Obviously i have made this my Black Templars WIP/PLOG... so enjoy /EDIT I already made a post in new members, but I feel I need to report directly to the fortress monastery! Hello y'all. I have played black Templar since 1999. Shut it down in about 2004 with the dissolution of my immediate circle of gamers. Getting back into it now. So I've been lurking for a while on this board. Y'all have given me a lot of inspiration. I will be rebuilding my crusade. With the acquisition of 2 tactical boxes, 2. BT upgrade boxes and a stern guard box folded into my existing forces I intend to build 4 crusader squads. For lack of better terms 2 shooty and 2 choppy. Fully 9 initiate and one sword brethren The shooty squads will have bolters, a heavy bolter, a special weapon and the sb will have a matching combi weapon and power sword all in a rhino. The choppy squads will have 5 neophytes with, 9 initiates and a sb, all with bp/cs except imbedded power fist special weapon and sb with power sword and matched combibolter. Both in their compulsory LRC. Leaving room for an HQ in the LRC. I will have 6 sword brethren built all with power swords and combi weapons. 2 plasma, 2 melta and 2 flamer. Also 6 special weapon initiates, 2 each of plasma, melta, and flamer. Seeing a pattern? Plan is to move in matched combo and special to the appropriate squad depending on my enemy. Throw in 2 HQ, i have several Marshalls chaplains techmarine and emperor's champion. Should be a fun fluffy army. Sadly almost everyone I saw at the local 40k night were playing marines which will get old, and require I declare any "loyalist" opponents excommunicate traitoris before the match... Lol Almost forgot, I have a predator, some land speeders, enough initiates for a devastator squad with 4 missile launchers, and a dreadnaught all for support... Guess I need anti air cus that is a thing now...

Declaration of Intent "This will not stand!" - Said Castellan Bertram as he punched the mahogany desk pulverizing it. "Our brothers in Dorn's blood will have their revenge, even if we must force the Inquisitor's arm to approve of it!" The Segmentum command emmisaries stood frozen in their places, completely scared of the templar's furious answer to the news regarding the denial by Inquisitor Van Halen to give their brother chapter the Decapitation rights to eliminate the command structure of the perfidious Eldar in the Elyon sector. Finally, the leader of the entourage managed to utter a few words trying to explain his master's actions. "M... My lord... M..Master Van Halen worries are beyond a meager cabal of dying xenos. H.. He thinks the rot in the sector goes beyond that. Th... the raids are just a cover. People have been dissapearing in these planets before the xenos came to plunder. Th.. there's been a rampant cult activity in the last decades and we are afraid one of the planets is on the brink of damnation." The Castellan stood motionless looking directly at the eyes of the Inquisitor's emmisary for a few moments, then Brother Arnulph came to his ear as he put his hand on Bertram's shoulder. "We can can help avenge the honour of our brother chapter and eliminate the threats in the sector at the same time, my brother. Send a message to chapter command informing the situation as it unfolds. We are but a small patrol right now but maybe Grand Marshal Helbrecht might help us with this issue and send more troops to aid in our mission." The Castellan turned his face to see the Chaplain in his eyes and then nodded. "Very well. I shall communicate this to our leaders" Then turned to the still fearful emmisaries and said "as for your, menials. Go and cower between your masters legs. Tell them the Adeptus Astartes of the Black Templars chapter will come to liberate the Elyon sector and avenge the honour of the sons of Dorn. With or without their approval. And in your way out, tell some serf companion of yours to remove the remains of this desk. It offends me." Then the Segmentum Command emmisaries scurried away from the Templars Cathedral to their master's ships. [basicheader=231F20][/basicheader] Hey all! I was looking at the templars forum a couple of weeks ago and saw that there might be a new Knightfall event, and since I've been having huge issues giving some purpose to my primaris miniatures, I decided to join the bandwagon, get the new templars boxset and make a small army of my own. I've linked them to my narrative of this Elyon sector in which various forces are battling for dominance and in which my poor Imperial Fists have been trashed so hard in my few crusade games. So that's what this thread is about, my very own templar crusade and the minis i'm collecting for it. Right now i don't have any pics as i just finished building the emperor's champion, but as soon as i have something more tangible i'll upload something (hopefully my Knightfall entry). Thanks for reading this and i hope you can accompany me along this way

'To The darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation upon those who refuse them' -Reclusiarch Grimaldus It is time to light the pyres upon which we shall purge the unpainted, and bring forth to the gaming table our zealous brethren in all their glorious bespoke incarnations. -Rules- A vow must be made to participate. A vow can be of any size, composition and loadout that has a valid datasheet. Any vow must include an image of the models in their beginning state. Upon completion, post an image of your labors within the event thread. Models for a vow can be assembled and basecoated up to two colors. Special cases will be at the discretion of the event runners. No new vows until completion of the current vow. All submissions should have the total point cost of the models pledged listed somewhere within the vow. No need to itemize. From the start of November until the end of January you can vow anything Black Templar your crusading heart desires. On Monday January 31 at midnight Pacific time zone (UTS-8) the event will be closed and the final tally shall be made. -Awards- Highest # of vows: Seal of the Assault (participant who makes the most amount of completed vows, regardless of points or unit count) Highest # of points: Mantle of Command (participant who completed the highest amount of points, regardless of unit size or quantity) Best in Show: Crusade Champion (judge TBD) Peoples Choice: Crusade Chaplain (chosen by forum via polling) Incomplete Vow: Oathbreaker (do you even lift, bro?) -Banners- (Animated / Static) Vow Taken Vow Completed ++ SEAL OF ASSAULT ++ - DANGERMAN - ++ MANTLE OF COMMAND ++ - LORD BLACKWOOD - ++ OATHBREAKER ++ Here is your vow, should you choose to accept this challenge, no matter the odds: I, (state your name), hereby vow the following force of (model/models) to the Eternal Crusade before the end of January (2022). I enter with the mark of the Neophyte, and through the trials of fate and fire, rise to the rank of Initiate by journey's end as a true brethren of the Black Templar order. Should I fail in my vow, I will bear the mark of failure until year's end as repentance.

Hi all, Some new bases arrived today and as such I have decided that I need to introduce you all to my crusade. As such I hereby Declare the beginning of the righteous Sanctus Crusade! The crusade was formed from the remains of numerous other completed crusades which had been denied the honor of fighting on armageddon due to their diminished numbers. Each finished crusade provides the expertise from their previous campaigns and adds new elements of warfare with which they are accustomed to, as such these elite warriors of mankind have come together under a new marshal to wage war upon the enemies of mankind. This marshals name: Mortus Helstrom, the aim of this campaign is a simple one: the recovering of sacred artifacts in the name of the emperor and smiting all that oppose him. So this model isn't finished converting yet or even glued to its base so is far from finished but gives a general gist as to what he should turn out as, without further ado I give you Marshal Helstrom! http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah78/Btemp93/temporary_zps0fef7366.jpg?t=1419601794 http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah78/Btemp93/temporary_zps7d441f68.jpg?t=1419601801http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah78/Btemp93/temporary_zps7a8bdf8c.jpg?t=1419601800 Stay posted I have alot of things to post up! TEST IMAGE http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah78/Btemp93/20170321_103634_zps3jda8ndz.jpg

If Anyone's interested in increasing Templar related gear, here's a pretty cool design Templar Shirt Not advertising for their company... just telling people in case their interested... I already bought one for myself :p

Since the starting CPs are significantly reduced, we must pick the WLT/Relic options more carefully. A big good news for BT is that Helbrecht and Grimaldus don't need CP to equip them, thus the CPs could be spend on the other 1-3 characters. About WLTs, if going elite infantries(BGV/TDA/Gravis) way, Selfless healer on apothecary is still must. Obsec is so important today, and "core and character" are the things BT just bring, so Rite of war is a most common choice. Oathkeeper is perfect pairing with judiciar, but I don't know how many players still have judiciar in list. About relics, bones is still decent, while shrould is less popular after AoC. some questions: If taking Grimaldus, would you active his Epitome of piety? Would you use Revered repositories(Sword of judgement) and Champion of feast to make a super sergeant? Any experience about the anti-psychic relics?

Morning all. I'm one of the many long time admirers of Templars who has finally jumped in with new supplement. But now thanks to a Twitter poll I'm planning on taking my Templars to the 40k Grand Tournament at Warhammer World in February. Thought it would be fun idea to document my progress to hone my list and paint it in time. This will be the biggest competitive event I've ever attended so advice on list composition would be greatly appreciated. I'm not neccesarily out to win the whole thing but I'd like to win atleast a couple of my games. First job though is to get the 2021 grand tournament mission pack and study the missions so I can put together lists that can achieve the objectives. On the painting side I have a few units in progress so far, with these five assault terminators being the closest to being finished. Now time for me to get to work.

Hey all have you been thinking about the new edition and how it will change our faction? As far as ninth edition goes I’m very happy with our rules and how we play. Hopefully geedub will be a little kinder to SM when the new editon rolls out. Any predictions?

This is my Crusade Thread; basically a mix of kitbashes, painting logs, battle reports and short story pieces, chonologing the growth of my home-grown crusade. Hope you enjoy something amongst all the nonsense BIG EDIT: Photobucket broke all my pictures... they are back up again, but not sure if this is permanent. In the meantime, here is my library in case you really want to see anything particular: http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/matzeke/library/?sort=3&page=1 First, some background info on the crusade: (For WIP, scroll down to pictures) The brethren of what is now known as the Renascibilitas Crusade were thought lost by their fellow templars when their flotilla vanished into the warp while pursuing a particularly destructive pirate fleet of twisted Eldar sadists, after a long and bitter campaign to push the Xenos back. After many years had passed, the return of these missing brothers came as a surprise. More surprising was their reluctance to discuss exactly where they had been, or why their numbers had dwindled. This information was deemed only for the ears of the high marshal himself. Since their return, the fiery and stoic force have remained distinct from some of their younger and more excitable chapter-brothers. Nevertheless, they demonstrate an unswerving loyalty to the will of the Emperor, and hold strong to some clear truths: The Emperor is the single greatest triumph of mankind and loyalty to him and his design is their highest priority. The Emperor's wisdom is to be respected. He chose to employ certain sanctioned psychic individuals to further his great goals, yet he decreed that his loyal marines should be free from that great burden and temptation. Those battle-brothers who have forgotten this are derided and scorned publicly, and rarely trusted or tolerated on the battlefield. 'Friendly' warning shots have been fired, as have less-friendly ones. This suspicion extends to all pyskers to some degree, but while essential tools of the imperium (astropaths etc) are tolerated within strict boundaries, the reckless use of battle-psykers means that inquisitors and librarians are viewed as one step away from the Xenos and the Heretic. This hasn't stopped the pragmatic leadership of the crusade from working with various chapters, inquisitors and members of the ecclesiarchy, but more than one ally has found that the templars can be fickle in their support. The crusade brothers are closely bonded themselves, likely due to their unspoken experiences in their missing years. As an old brotherhood, they remember the old ways, and the emperors truth. They respect the greatest man to have walked the galaxy, ritualising and dramatising their faith in his mind and design. They crusade in the name of man, not of a god. Their faith and zeal burns bright, a cleansing flame in the dark.

So I looked up my last thread, and ironically almost a year ago to the day I started yet another Black Templars army. I had so many requests to do commissions/work at the time that I decided to sell the army since the offers were too good to pass up. Since then, I started a decent Wolves army (which is fun, and I like painting it) but I guess I wanted to really make a painful decision to go back to my 40K roots.... So I just picked up a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff that is primarily Black Templars. I don't know if I'm crazy or not for doing this, but here is the start of the Patrol box, and the new Phobos (Infiltrators) from the new Kill team box set (so they have new cool bits.) Maybe this is a bad idea. I forgot how long it takes me to do these models. The first 3-4 stages of zenithal highlighting, and shadowing is done. I'm working on getting through this squad as they are not as inspiring as the other kits (much more 'crusadey' looking kits. ) Though the new Kill team bits keep these guys a bit more interesting. I hope I have it in me to continue the army.

This is my first attempt at a thread, so I hope it goes well. I figured, after reading several threads for the various other Crusades, and seeing the outright AWSOME work being done, that this might be the Power Boot in the (4-point-of-contact) I need to actually get the various projects I have either unstarted or in various stages of completion up to par with what I had envisioned for them when I started. After seeing the constructive criticisms here from various members, I'm excited to get feedback that will aid me in getting better. I'll try to post some pics of my crusade so far after RL obligations have been met for the day. For anybody reading this NOW, sorry for the text. More to follow soon!

Hey brothers of the Eternal Crusade! I started a Primaris Crusade a long time ago. I painted about 10 models and didn’t follow through as I got distracted by my Krieg force. Now it’s a new year and my brother wants to join in on the 40k fun! He’d previously started his own Successor Chapter but has fallen in love with everyone’s favourite Space Crusaders! We have a deal, he’ll do the modelling and I’ll do the painting. True to form, I started with the model that I’d enjoy painting most! Here’s the Marshal (as yet unnamed) of the Promethean Crusade: Black Templars Marshal Black Templars Marshal Black Templars Marshal Gotta say the new Black Templars range is phenomenal and I can’t wait to do more! Thanks for looking and please let me know what you think.

Greetings! I'm a Black Templars fanatic and conversions enthusiast. I used to crawl around this board more than 5 years ago and even posted some of my stuff back then. I took a break from the hobby for a couple of years but reentered the game about 2 years ago. In the past time I put together a lot of stuff (exclusively for my two big loves in 40k: Black Templars and Inquisition) and don't want to hold it back from you. I see this as a compendium of my work and gonna update it whenever I have some new freaks to show off. Criticism and suggestions welcome as always. Old models: Black Templars Castellan mainly based on this wonderful and inspiring Artwork by John Blanche Black Templars Sword Brother also based on the Blanche Artwork Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor Black Templars Dreadnought some random Servitor with Heavy Bolter Newer Stuff: Black Templars Assault Squad Inquisition Lexmechanic Inquisition Warrior Acolytes Inquisition Familiar

What two are the best choices - I’m thinking Imperium Sword and Paragon of Fury so he can get up to S10.

Anybody have experience ruining a 20 man squad? I wanna go full choppy with four powerfists. How do you buff them?