Prot Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 Speaking of which... I can't wait to see the Wraithknight. So disappointed in him in 9th. I used him a lot, but never got to painting him as he'd get vavporized so easily, and the points were just a little out of wack for what he does. But with Tau out, this might just be a pipe dream of mine. Still deciding on paint schemes as I continue painting the Banshees. All I know is the beginning of all my lists will start with Jain and Banshees for the first while. Cool thing is I found my old 'to do' box and found two assembled Warwalkers in there. This might be the time to include them as well. Hopefully they still have inherent reserves rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Speaking of which... I can't wait to see the Wraithknight. So disappointed in him in 9th. I used him a lot, but never got to painting him as he'd get vavporized so easily, and the points were just a little out of wack for what he does. But with Tau out, this might just be a pipe dream of mine. Rumoured rules here. https://spikeybits.com/2022/01/rumors-new-eldar-wraithknight-datasheet-40k-rules.html The bulit-in Invuln and -1 Damage rule will certainly help make it a bit more survivable, the HWC look good too. Now there are some downsides. Titanic feet have been heavily nerfed, if you want a melee monster now you have to take the Glaive. I fully expect this to be rolled out to Imperial Knights too. Also it can no longer leave melee and shoot, it can only Charge after falling back. This is inline with the Stormsurge so I fully expect it to be rolled out to other Titanic units too. This makes it MUCH harder to leverage its firepower and melee capabilities simultaneously. If you are in melee and you want to shoot, you have to stay put and shoot whatever you are fighting. Power 23 suggests a price of about 460 points. I don't think this is going to be competitive in a tournament setting but at least I think you can run one now without actively handicapping yourself. However it does have to be looked at in comparison to the Stormsurge which it will inevitably end up facing across the Battlefield. At 330 with eyewatering levels of firepower, the Stormsurge is clearly a far better unit and a Wraithknight would be unlikely to survive closing the distance to where its better melee capabilities could be of some use. That is before you consider how much damage a 145 point Hammerhead will do a Wraithknight with its railgun. The Wraithknight is much improved but 9th remains an edition that does not favour vehicles much but I will enjoy bringing mine out for fun games now at least. WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 Yea... I don't see taking the Wraithknight unfortunately if those rumours hold true. I'm not paying those points for D3 random shot, blast weapon. You won't get your invuln when it matters, and I have 2 tau players in my immediate group, and another 2 at the store. Well it can stay on the shelf for another 6 months or so for CA tweaks. I am not a vehicle fan at all in 40K right now, but I think the Serpents look like they might still hold up a bit under pressure. Without a Wraithknight I'll have those points left over hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Speaking of which... I can't wait to see the Wraithknight. So disappointed in him in 9th. I used him a lot, but never got to painting him as he'd get vavporized so easily, and the points were just a little out of wack for what he does. But with Tau out, this might just be a pipe dream of mine.Rumoured rules here. https://spikeybits.com/2022/01/rumors-new-eldar-wraithknight-datasheet-40k-rules.html One thing that I failed to pick up on in my previous post is that it looks like we have a couple of new loadouts available to us for the Wraithknight. Both of the following now look to be legal: Heavy Wraithcannon and Scattershield Heavy Wraithcannon and Suncannon I am not sure giving up a HWC is worth going from a 5++ to a 4++, particularly when this guys is likely to be a candidate for Strands of Fate. But the ability to take a HWC and Suncannon looks very interesting. Now you have have your Marine-busting gun and your anti-tank in one hefty package. Possibilities to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I feel like Highlander lists are gonna be on my menu generally. MSU Scorpions and Spiders are a standard for me as well, but if I didn't already have 12 Spiders I'd wait for new models (hopefully) next year. Everything looks amazing rules-wise tbh, and while I wish Rangers had a slightly bigger damage role, you can likely do alot worse than 2x5 ObSec campers under 150 pts as a start to any list. As an Ulthwé player I never got into wraith units really, but thinking a starting line of Troops will most likely be 1x20 Webway Defenders, 1x10 Storm guardians in Serpent, 2x5 Rangers, 2x5 Corsairs. Of course looks like you'll be dropping the Guardians for WGuard more or less. Shuriken Warwalkers outflanking for Engage all day... and/or dual BL to screen backfield? Based on current points, and your apparent collection with Iyanden I'd likely be building to something like: Yriel + Jain + Farseer 2x5 Rangers (camping) 1x10 or 2x5 Corsairs (ride Serpent w/ Yriel on to forward objectives) 1x10 Banshees (Serpent 2; Jain; either dominate flank that Yriel is trying to cap, or go wide opposite) 2x5 WGuard (5scythes + 5cannons; reserve 1 rush one middle) 1x6-10 WBlades (shields; size points dependent; rush middle) WLord - I like at least a couple lances in any list ; ) - rush / screen middle 2x1 WWalkers - dual shuriken, Reserves 2x Serpents - starcannons Dropping Serpents for more Wraith an option, of course... But if you take one for Banshees/Jain (and you probably should), you probably want a second one for a left jab to that right hook while your Wraiths take the body blows lol. So excited for this Codex! 2nd Ed. Eldar 'dex was my first ever Warhammer book... Love to see the legendary Karhedron holding it down out here as always. Cheers, The Good Doctor. Karhedron, MithrilForge and Prot 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 As an Altansar fan, I wish their trait didn't have such a specific close combat bent because now I feel pigeonholed into building more CC into a list. Banshees have enough AP as it is, so more Scorpions? Storm Guardians? I'll have to consider this conundrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Is that White Dwarf out now? Those rules look fun so I might pick that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Not yet -- it drops in a few more days, but pictures of the rules pages leaked already. I'm going to pick it up this weekend specifically for that index. Tyriks 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandras Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 How does everyone feel about equipping Windriders... obviously depending on points of course... is it Scatters or the new and improved Cannons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) How does everyone feel about equipping Windriders... obviously depending on points of course... is it Scatters or the new and improved Cannons? I think I lean towards scatter lasers as Wind Riders are still fairly squishy. They are great for snagging Objectives and harassing the enemy and I think that Scatter lasers fit better with that thanks to their longer range There are plenty of places for shuricannons, particularly on tougher units that are likely to be operating closer to the enemy. Edited February 17, 2022 by Karhedron MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 How does everyone feel about equipping Windriders... obviously depending on points of course... is it Scatters or the new and improved Cannons? FWIW I found their guns extremely easy to magnetize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Veeerry easy to magnetize. So you could play around with it yourself. But I'll be sticking with shuri cannons for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 The only thing I would recommend is to perhaps wait until we know for sure how many of each weapon the unit can take. We've seen a large uptick in new codexes restricting the loadout of special weapons on squads, so current loadouts may not still be legal with the new book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandras Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I have ordered some magnets so will be slipping those in place for all the options. Tyriks and TrawlingCleaner 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 The only thing I would recommend is to perhaps wait until we know for sure how many of each weapon the unit can take. We've seen a large uptick in new codexes restricting the loadout of special weapons on squads, so current loadouts may not still be legal with the new book The kit has enough bits to give each bike any of the guns so it would be very surprising if they limited these. Most of the limits have been based on what's in the box (as far as I know, actually, all of them are, but there may be some I'm unaware of). Karhedron, Halandaar and TrawlingCleaner 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 So far... I'm leaning to Ulthwé, with D-cannon artillery, Wraithblades pushing up with Banshees on foot filled out by Guardians and Rangers for troops. I don't really like vehicles in this meta, and the Craftworld choices really don't seem to stand out to me. So I am leaning Ulthwé because I've always loved reading about Eldrad, and my first Eldar army was Ulthwé. That said, the Wraiths still are an attractive model line within the Craftworlds to me but I'm sure they can fit in anything to some degree. Personally I love the Psychics as well within some Craftworlds, but I've heard very little about it. Craftwords themselves don't seem, or appear to me, to be too over/under powered.... So far anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 @Prot your avatar was a bit of a shock to me. :) Interesting choice on the artillery. I guess without vehicles and LoS, they could be a contender. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 @Prot your avatar was a bit of a shock to me. :) Interesting choice on the artillery. I guess without vehicles and LoS, they could be a contender. Oh don’t worry. My avatar will change once I get my new craftworld scheme figured out! I have no idea what scheme I want. I have a few ideas. As far as the artillery, I saw before this codex how valuable indirect points as on these new tables. Unless the points are wonky I foresee using the D cannon. But even then I think the artillery will have some good options. I hope…! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I'm personally moving away from my bone scheme to using purple on my new models. I have a few things committed to the brush, but not really sure where to go to be honest. I need to have a playable army in mind, but I'm not playing so.... Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Is there a colour you haven't painted yet? Might make it more bearable doing something new. White is something i haven't personally seen a lot of. Probably because its hard to make it not just look like primer or an easy wash job. The challenge may be fun for you though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 I really did consider white. I have a good start on a white scars army that shows a lot of weathering and damage and I thought if going that route with Eldar however I’ve never really painted a full army of purple so I’m leaning that way. I just finished my Banshees and Jain Zar in traditional colours. So I may start on a theme in purple, and teal accents. It looks good in my head but who knows! TrawlingCleaner and Captain Coolpants 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Purple with Teal sounds like a rad combo, I have no doubt you can pull it off, Prot! Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Sounds good! My main Eldar are painted teal, and my wraithseer has purple visor and sash. The colours absolutely go well! Main body being purple sounds much cooler Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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