Leagues of Votann Initial 1st April 2022 reveal, new lore & articles discussion

[INKS]

I just want them in KT now!!! lol

[Lord Marshal]

Artwork spoilt the Grimnyr.

[Guest Triszin]

Awesome find

[Slave to Darkness]

14 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

Artwork spoilt the Grimnyr.

Looks more like a Primaris Space Wolf than an actual Space Wolf... 

 

Is the dude with a beard on the left some form of Living Ancestor or new equivalent? That actually looks really nice.

[Lord Marshal]

3 minutes ago, Slave to Darkness said:

Looks more like a Primaris Space Wolf than an actual Space Wolf... 

 

Is the dude with a beard on the left some form of Living Ancestor or new equivalent? That actually looks really nice.

That's Odin the Grimnyr. They're pretty much the new Living Ancestors, yep.

[Slave to Darkness]

2 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

That's Odin the Grimnyr. They're pretty much the new Living Ancestors, yep.

Well thats at least one Votann mini Ill be picking up then. Fabulous beard, Im jealous ngl. 

 

Shame the rest of the range doesnt excite me. :( 

[Taliesin]

More awesome looking stuff. What a superb new faction. Lore summary last week was also very good.

[INKS]

I hate to jump on the ol band wagon but I am really liking the looks of the basic troops, which is huge for me. Since we are likely to use a good number of them. 

so so on the bikes. 

The other models look cool. And orange theme for the cloth and bone or white / bone look for the armor might be where I go with them.

I've been waiting to do an orange prisoner look for a while. (I know they aren't prisoners )

[Noserenda]

Unsurprisingly, a new army box coming in September :) Bunch of new heroes too! 

[Burni]

I like the basic troops but have either been meh on the other releases or I outright dislike them. The vehicles in particular all look terrible to me (Philips razors and space bin lorries).

I guess I should be grateful for all the money I’ll be saving!

[Cadmus Tyro]

Missed an opportunity to include the men of iron……

 

cadmus 

[Pearson73]

Big fan of the new drones/automata things, love how they share design with the Mechanicum/Mechanicus models.

[Dosjetka]

On 8/30/2022 at 4:24 PM, BluegrassGamer said:

September's paint-n'-take model is a Hearthkyn Warrior.

Is this scheme also present in non-GW shops or is it a GW-exclusive thing?

I'd be keen to pick up a LoV model but don't have a GW in reasonable vicinity.

[Fire Golem]

4 minutes ago, Dosjetka said:

Is this scheme also present in non-GW shops or is it a GW-exclusive thing?

I'd be keen to pick up a LoV model but don't have a GW in reasonable vicinity.

GW stores only. 

[Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla]

I don't understand why GW insisted on stressing how ironkin are just like all the rest of kin and how they are treated as equall memebers of the dwarven society only to make them drones/servitors on the tabletop, who are not even mixed into normal units.

[Mjasghar]

So they’re saying they Kin are vat grown now and on a massive scale

which again prompt the question of why they bother with females especially if they still have female sexual characteristics that serve no function

and how do those living outside the society eg Necromunda maintain their population 

[redmapa]

1 hour ago, Mjasghar said:

So they’re saying they Kin are vat grown now and on a massive scale

which again prompt the question of why they bother with females especially if they still have female sexual characteristics that serve no function

and how do those living outside the society eg Necromunda maintain their population 

Keeping sexual reproduction makes  sense if you're making pioneers and explorers, it's a fail safe should anything happen to your clone factory in a far away planet.

[Redcomet]

My wallet and me are relieved that I only really like one mini so far

[Karhedron]

3 hours ago, Burni said:

I like the basic troops but have either been meh on the other releases or I outright dislike them. The vehicles in particular all look terrible to me (Philips razors and space bin lorries).

I agree on the vehicles but the basic troops also don't excite me. The models I like are the HQs and Elites that are properly decorated knotwork, icons and other "dwarfish" imagery. If the whole army had been done with this aesthetic, I would have been seriously tempted. As it stands, my wallet stands firm against temptation (probably just as well).

[Guest Triszin]

I.am worried that this will be a lumineth style release.

 

Where there's a new codex and second 10+ kit wave not even a year after this hits.

:/

[Fire Golem]

13 minutes ago, Triszin said:

I.am worried that this will be a lumineth style release.

 

Where there's a new codex and second 10+ kit wave not even a year after this hits.

:/

I'm pretty sure this wave is a fair bit larger than Lumineth 1.0.

[Lord Marshal]

44 minutes ago, Triszin said:

I.am worried that this will be a lumineth style release.

 

Where there's a new codex and second 10+ kit wave not even a year after this hits.

:/

I think 10th 40k will ensure that won't happen, since there'll inevitably be a big Space Marine wave and whatever the 'antagonist' faction is taking up most of 2023's second half.

The initial wave feels pretty substantial, but still with room for more. My guess is it'll be a GSC situation, so a second wave after a couple of years but not so quickly as SoB/Lumineth.

Edited September 1, 2022 by Lord Marshal

[TheVoidDragon]

4 hours ago, Karhedron said:

I agree on the vehicles but the basic troops also don't excite me. The models I like are the HQs and Elites that are properly decorated knotwork, icons and other "dwarfish" imagery. If the whole army had been done with this aesthetic, I would have been seriously tempted. As it stands, my wallet stands firm against temptation (probably just as well).

My thoughts on the Leagues haven't really changed from the initial reveal. A cool idea involving a classic sci-fi vibe, but not enough of the Dwarf side of the aesthetic to make them feel like they do justice to the idea of Space Dwarfs.

What makes it odd is that we have seen the Hearthkyn with just a little more of that Dwarf imagery on them and it makes a huge difference to their feel - some decoration on the Autoch bolter, and a piece of artwork has some on their shoulder pads....but they're decals.

We've seen the Leagues symbol on the Kahl and Champion, there's no reason a small sigil of that couldn't have been put on even the basic units like Grenl Grenlsen has.

[ADragonuFear]

5 hours ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

I don't understand why GW insisted on stressing how ironkin are just like all the rest of kin and how they are treated as equall memebers of the dwarven society only to make them drones/servitors on the tabletop, who are not even mixed into normal units.

Most of the ones being subservient are cogs which are less intelligent. It seems you can use a headswap in the main troop kit to sprinkle some ironkin in there. The one being an ammo bearer for the berserk grenade launcher is a bit weird.

[TheVoidDragon]

5 hours ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

I don't understand why GW insisted on stressing how ironkin are just like all the rest of kin and how they are treated as equall memebers of the dwarven society only to make them drones/servitors on the tabletop, who are not even mixed into normal units.

I really thought they were going for something where they'd just be mixed in amongst units as a normal thing. Like just stick the Ironkin Head on a Einhyr or Thunderkyn because they're equal and just as capable for the most part. But that doesn't seem to be the case now.