Khornestar Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 In today's Warhammer Community preview article, I read the codex supplement contained in War Zone Nachmund: Rift War will be for an Astartes chapter called the Castellans of the Rift. There is some good summary here regarding the Castellans of the Rift, and the larger force of Astartes of various chapters that combined to form the Wardens of the Rift. I hope the rules are interesting. Since it's coming out soon, seemed like a good enough time to start the discussion. Is there any info out there about what the rules might be? BLACK BLŒ FLY and WrathOfTheLion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 I haven't seen anything so far, but it sounds like a cool idea to do Supplements to tie in a bunch of chapters like this. Trying to give every chapter stuff is going to be a futile endeavor beyond a certain fixed set (1st founding, etc.), so tying a bunch in by themed Warzone is something I rather like, especially if they continue to bring in lesser chapters to stuff like this. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5821816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 I'm intrigued. The Castellans have very little info about them but it's a nice colour scheme. If the rules offer something substantially different from any of the other marine forces I have, I may paint up a small force. WrathOfTheLion and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5822016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 I'm intrigued. The Castellans have very little info about them but it's a nice colour scheme. If the rules offer something substantially different from any of the other marine forces I have, I may paint up a small force. You’re spot on. I’m sure I’d be surprised but it seems like there would be little point in a codex supplement if they didn’t make it quite unique. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5822176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 I'd hope to see rules that tie into their background as the leaders of the Wardens. Perhaps the ability to include a unit with a different chapter tactic without breaking doctrines? Looking forward to finding out what the rules are. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5822289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 Don’t wanna poison the well but this ends up being a big shrug from me. Nothing super interesting, just a primaris only ultramarines successor army with their own traits/relics/strats: https://www.goonhammer.com/war-zone-nachmund-rift-war-matched-play-review/ Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5824743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Don’t wanna poison the well but this ends up being a big shrug from me. Nothing super interesting, just a primaris only ultramarines successor army with their own traits/relics/strats: https://www.goonhammer.com/war-zone-nachmund-rift-war-matched-play-review/ Looks like an alright boost for people who only want to use Primaris units. The bonuses, traits, and strategems all seem thematic and useful. For example, a strategem for +1 to hit when you get charged can actually be a big deal, provided enough of the unit survives to hit back, and their perma mini-Transhuman will help there. Things like being able to turn on 6" heroic intervention will help mess with your opponent's plans as well. And it could always be worse - at least it is not a Tzaangors army of renown. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5824772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 The WLTs , relics and 8(!) stratagems are okay, and show some love from the writter. Definetely not in the same spice with pure garbage like phobos AoW. Khornestar and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) case closed Edited May 9, 2022 by Medjugorje Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) The deployment shenanigans and a few other things are cool. I play primaris only Black Templars, and there’s a contingent of them amongst the Wardens so maybe I’ll actually give it a chance. Edited May 8, 2022 by Khornestar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8 WL-Traits. Same amount as the BT Supplement. And all 8 are better^^ There are only 3 warlord traits in the new supplement. And the BT got six, rather than eight. The Castellans got eight *stratagems*. Meanwhile the Templars got sixteen, pretty much typical for the "full" Space Marine supplements. And in both cases, twice what the Castellans got here. Angelus Nex and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 At least this is isn’t a Fallen rehash with zero effort. Just want to point out some are good WLTs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Saw someone mention that these rules seem great for Imperial Fists. Maybe fans of the boys in yellow will see something like this when their own supplement finally comes out. Sea-People 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 But they are successor of the Ultramarines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 But they are successor of the Ultramarines. Yes. The comment is not meant to imply that Imperial Fists can use these particular rules. Rather, the rules seem to fit thematically with what Imperial Fists are supposed to be. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 But they are successor of the Ultramarines. Yes. The comment is not meant to imply that Imperial Fists can use these particular rules. Rather, the rules seem to fit thematically with what Imperial Fists are supposed to be. Yep, I figure if these weren't a "real world" chapter belonging to one of the internal GW folks, somewhere during the process they would have been designated as sons of Dorn. Fortifying the Rift is as Fistian a task as one could ask for. But as-is, the position of "Ultima Founding obviously Dornish chapter heavily involved in War Zone Nachmund" goes instead to the Sons of the Phoenician... er, Phoenix. phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5825429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I really like the +1 to hit on the charge, Tip of the Sword, and Primarch's Book relic. Taken as a whole, it's like the supplement is Codex Supplement: Melee-Ultramarines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5828066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 What primaris units will leverage these rules best? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5828076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Nex Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 But they are successor of the Ultramarines. Yes. The comment is not meant to imply that Imperial Fists can use these particular rules. Rather, the rules seem to fit thematically with what Imperial Fists are supposed to be. Yep, I figure if these weren't a "real world" chapter belonging to one of the internal GW folks, somewhere during the process they would have been designated as sons of Dorn. Fortifying the Rift is as Fistian a task as one could ask for. But as-is, the position of "Ultima Founding obviously Dornish chapter heavily involved in War Zone Nachmund" goes instead to the Sons of the Phoenician... er, Phoenix. I usedmy crimson fists with these rules, they feel indeed quite thematic, and way better.It is a fun supplement that can pull of some nice tricks! The pregame move is great for getting to the middle fast and transhuman + the fnp strat can get a squad in cover super durable. Also the obsec strat is nice, and all the ultramarine stuff is also awesome if you are used to fist stuff (I say with sadness in my heart) Khornestar, BLACK BLŒ FLY and phandaal 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374025-codex-supplement-castellans-of-the-rift/#findComment-5831421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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