CCE1981 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Playing around with new list building and AoC. ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels) [124 PL, 2,000pts, 1CP] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: Blood Angels Successor, Born Heroes , Custom Chapter, Whirlwind of Rage Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim + HQ + Captain [6 PL, 120pts, -1CP]: Inferno pistol, Jump Pack, Master-Crafted Weapon, Power fist, Stratagem: Relic of the Chapter Chaplain [7 PL, 130pts, -3CP]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Bolt pistol, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Icon of The Angel, Jump Pack, Litany of Hate, Stratagem: Honoured by the Arx Angelicum, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Warlord, Wise Orator Sanguinary Priest [7 PL, 155pts, -1CP]: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Jump Pack, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter + Troops + Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades . Incursor Sergeant Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades . Incursor Sergeant Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword + Elites + Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 175pts] . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 175pts] . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 175pts] . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist + Fast Attack + Assault Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: Jump Pack . 2x Space Marine: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Combat shield, Inferno pistol, Power sword . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Inferno pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Inferno pistol Assault Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: Jump Pack . 2x Space Marine: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Combat shield, Inferno pistol, Power sword . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Inferno pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Inferno pistol Inceptor Squad [7 PL, 180pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant, Plasma Exterminator x2 + Heavy Support + Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 75pts]: Bolt sniper rifle . Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle . 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 75pts]: Bolt sniper rifle . Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle . 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades ++ Total: [124 PL, 1CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Everything starts on the table. The Captain, Assault Squads and Inceptors work together. Assault Squads bully lighter chaff, the inferno pistols work as a threat to anything stronger, the Inceptors act against elite units, and the Captain also acts to help prevent overheating and against more elite or harder targets. The Sanguinary Priest does have The Armor Indomitus. The Sanguinary Priest, Chaplain, and Sanguinary Guard are crazy act as a unit. The Sanguinary Guard will hit on 2s and exploding 6s on the charge, I have done this with double exploding 6s Space Wolf Successor Bladeguard destroying Knights in one turn of Combat, tripling that number and hitting at Str 8 vs Str 5 will more than make up for any differences in those units. Eliminators are there to sit on a backfield objective(s) and to provide a threat to Characters, admittedly probably more psychological. Infiltrators are just a pain to remove, Incursors play midboard annoyance, and Intercessors move into the midboard to take over hopefully cleared objectives. How does this list look? Thanks for the feedback! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374905-tempestus-griffons-2000-pts-nephilim/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Thoughts behind 3x5 SG? (Appreciate the answer could well be that it's what you own) Just wondering because similar lists increase the SG numbers. List has lots of backup to achieve objectives - but which ones are you targeting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374905-tempestus-griffons-2000-pts-nephilim/#findComment-5843977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 I always run my SG as a single blob so that they can receive Character support. I realise 3x5 gives you flexibility but I worry that the temptation to split them up will dilute their effectiveness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374905-tempestus-griffons-2000-pts-nephilim/#findComment-5844010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 3x 5 is intended to prevent losses from morale, and to give flexibility. From my experience with Bladeguard re-rolling everything but 6s and double exploding 6s. A 5-man squad is enough to crush just about anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374905-tempestus-griffons-2000-pts-nephilim/#findComment-5844644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 In new version, CPs are much much more precious. Things like "master crafted power fist" doesn't deserve consuming a CP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374905-tempestus-griffons-2000-pts-nephilim/#findComment-5844667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 I would disagree on that, a d3, AP-3, str8 weapon on the charge hitting on 2s is pretty good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374905-tempestus-griffons-2000-pts-nephilim/#findComment-5844670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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