newmajorpanic Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 First time trying out the AL... appreciate feedback. HQ: Armillus Dynat 185 Exodus 165 Troops: 10 x Tacticals with chain bayonets; vexilla; AA&PF + Rhino with combi-melta and searchlights 160 10 x Tacticals with chain bayonets; vexilla; AA&PF + Rhino with combi-melta and searchlights 160 10 x Tacticals with chain bayonets; vexilla; AA&PF + Rhino with combi-melta and searchlights 160 5 x Recons with Nemesis bolters 145 5 x Recons with Nemesis bolters 145 Elites: 2 x Apothecaries with power daggers 100 2 x Contemptors: twin autocannon, havoc launcher; twin fists (grav) 410 5 x Lernaeans with power axes; heavy flamer; PF 280 Fast Attack: 5 x Headhunters with banestrike; multi-melta + Rhino with multi-melta and searchlights 215 Heavy Support: Leviathan; storm cannon; siege claw; phosphex discharger 300 Whirlwind Scorpius with searchlight 125 5 x Tyrant Siege Terminators 310 PLAN: Pretty straightforward, really. Dynat joins one of the tac squads and Exodus can float around or join a squad. Lernaeans, Leviathan and the twin fist contemptor infiltrate using Dynat shenanigans, Lernaeans hold an objective whilst the two dreads wreak havoc. Scorpius, the autocannon contemptor, Tyrants and probably one squad of recons hold backline. Everyone else drives around and does what's needed. My main concern here is a lack of firepower. Thoughts? One consideration I had was to drop the two apothecaries and take Fulmentarus instead of the Tyrants. Finally, not sure about the searchlights on all the Rhino chassis vehicles but figure that I've heard enough horror stories about Night Fighting. Thanks for looking! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imren Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Those to 5 man squads of recon marines are easy victory points for you opponent and they won't perform much for their 300p in total. I suggest you remove the recon squads from the list and use the points to boost your siege tyrants to a 8-10 man squad. This way you get increased firepower and another tough nut to crack for your opponent on top of the leviathan and increased target saturation effect. Other than that I think its good. (If it was 1st ed I'd recommend a master of signal with the siege tyrants). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/#findComment-5845159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmajorpanic Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 Fair point re the recon marines - I’ve swapped them out for a squad of ten Seekers. I don’t really want to take more Tyrants as it feels a little too gamey for me, but that may change after a few games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/#findComment-5846480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I have a question; how is a 10 man tac with chain bayos (+2 each), vex (10), art arm (10) and pfist (15), rhino (35), cmelta (10) and searchlights (5)....that comes out to 185 by my calculation. I don't have my book so I might be off on a couple things, but I'm pretty sure each unit with DT is at least 180. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/#findComment-5846703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmajorpanic Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, 9x19 Parabellum said: I have a question; how is a 10 man tac with chain bayos (+2 each), vex (10), art arm (10) and pfist (15), rhino (35), cmelta (10) and searchlights (5)....that comes out to 185 by my calculation. I don't have my book so I might be off on a couple things, but I'm pretty sure each unit with DT is at least 180. Ah, I may have mucked that up - thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/#findComment-5846707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNineteenth Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) On 7/12/2022 at 6:42 AM, Imren said: Those to 5 man squads of recon marines are easy victory points for you opponent and they won't perform much for their 300p in total. I suggest you remove the recon squads from the list and use the points to boost your siege tyrants to a 8-10 man squad. This way you get increased firepower and another tough nut to crack for your opponent on top of the leviathan and increased target saturation effect. Other than that I think its good. (If it was 1st ed I'd recommend a master of signal with the siege tyrants). Disagree; 72" range really allows you to have them back there and actually claim objectives with Line (which the Lernaens critically don't have; I'm not sure "Terminators don't score [except in PotL]" has really sunk in for everyone, yet) AND still plink Rend chances at things They're going to need blocker/babysitter units, though. In the past, Tacticals camping on backfield objectives often had no range until stuff was getting in their face, so some people would run Tac Support with Volkite Calivers (the old Heavy 2 45" range next brother up from Chargers). Edited July 22, 2022 by TheNineteenth error Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/#findComment-5848754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmajorpanic Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 5 hours ago, TheNineteenth said: Disagree; 72" range really allows you to have them back there and actually claim objectives with Line (which the Lernaens critically don't have; I'm not sure "Terminators don't score [except in PotL]" has really sunk in for everyone, yet) AND still plink Rend changes at things They're going to need blocker/babysitter units, though. In the past, Tacticals camping on backfield objectives often had no range until stuff was getting in their face, so some people would run Tac Support with Volkite Calivers (the old Heavy 2 45" range next brother up from Chargers). Only point is that Lernaeans do have Line, which I feel like most people are missing at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/#findComment-5848841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNineteenth Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 5 hours ago, newmajorpanic said: Only point is that Lernaeans do have Line, which I feel like most people are missing at the moment. I stand corrected; wow, that really makes a big difference. Personally, my dream of giving 10 of them 2 Conversion Beamers and camping at the rear seems to have gotten rather more viable. Pretty damn tough to dislodge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374957-3000-alpha-legion-sort-of-mechanised/#findComment-5848927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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