Mazer Rackham Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Trokair said: I assume everybody is in range to be affected by the all ranged weapons jam effect. Correct. The range is measured from Nicios 7 minutes ago, Trokair said: Should I also assume that this includes any side arms that we may have on our person but are not in our hands? All ranged weapons, equipped or not. I will rule that this does not apply to such weapons as Throwing Knives. I wouldn't try a grenade if I were you, though.... 7 minutes ago, Trokair said: How does this interact with the Reliable weapon trait? Weapons with the Reliable Quality may test as normal to see if Jammed. (Roll D10, only Jammed on a 9). Edited July 22, 2023 by Mazer Rackham Typo Trokair and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Thank you Nicios, I get my Aim plus other bonuses for next round to 100% but now my pistols are jammed! What do you have to roll to clear a Jam in DH? Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) Clear a Jam is a Full Action. Slightly frustrating, isn't it, especially for those of us dual wielding pistols! 2 Rounds out of the fight! @GM: Reynard has Rapid Reload, I know it doesn't strictly apply but can he unjam both bolt pistols as his Full Action? Edit: it's especially galling as I had Reynard rechecking his bolt pistols while they were on the lift ride (no game effect, obvs, I just did it narratively to try and bring myself some good luck! Ha! ) Edited July 22, 2023 by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Machine God said: What do you have to roll to clear a Jam in DH? In addition to being a full action I think it is also a Balistic skill test, and results in a reload with any amo in the gun being discarded (though I have a vague memory that Mazer might have dispenced with that earlier in the game). Edited July 22, 2023 by Trokair Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Trokair said: In addition to being a full action I think it is also a Ballistic skill test... Correct. 1 hour ago, Trokair said: and results in a reload with any amo in the gun being discarded (though I have a vague memory that Mazer might have dispenced with that earlier in the game). Almost right - I house ruled any ammunition used in an attack would be lost, not the entire magazine. In this case, since no attack has occurred, it's just the chambered rounds. Since no attack has taken place, and Quickload is related to Reload specifically, I will allow the Talent to be used to clear dual-wielding jammed weapons. It is still a Full Action however, as 'Clearing a Jam' dictates the duration. I think that covers everything..? Machine God and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 @Mazer Rackham - Can Kerr Restal use up his Corpse Hair token to negate the jamming from the Warp effect, please? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) To be fair, he almost got hit with a piece of the Warden's own body that would have one-shot Nicios if he didn't dodge. And the one conscious thrall's weapon also jammed, so...fair? Edited July 22, 2023 by Lord_Ikka Mazer Rackham and Trokair 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 @Machine God My reading of the Charm item description (p.146 DH: Core) is that it makes you exempt from being a 'randomly' determined character for an effect, not exempt to that effect. There is no randomly generated roll here, unfortunately - it's a blanket status. The paragraphs on p.146 support this reading, since if all characters with Charms are selected via Random rolling - the GM must pick which is the more powerful and discount that character. However, since you are, I think, the only one carrying a Charm, and Restal's previous IC belief he's 'chosen' in some way, I'll interpret to a halfway house, and allow you to ignore the Jam for one weapon. The rest must test for Reliable or be cleared as normal, with a Full Action. The Charm now breaks. If you want to keep the Charm for futureproofing, then the weapons remain jammed. Further, @Lord_Ikka is correct: the enemy weapons have also jammed. Lysimachus and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 In that case, @Machine God it might be worth taking the shot with the one unjammed pistol so the previous Aim isn't wasted, and then next Round do the Unjam Action on the other pistol? (Your call though, obvs!) Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 Just as an aside, I am not convinced that the roll for Reliable counts as a Test for the purposes of a Fate Point. Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I'm on the World's End pub crawl now , so I'll post this evening or tomorrow morning. Evading Thralls, Abominable Intelligences and Xenos atm. Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Machine God said: I'm on the World's End pub crawl now , so I'll post this evening or tomorrow morning. Evading Thralls, Abominable Intelligences and Xenos atm. Facts. Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) Planning! So, I'm guessing we have 9 Rounds (plus Restal's actions in Round 10) before the Core reaches 100% and goes 'boom'? Plus, looks like we will indeed need to target the shield generators on either side of the room before we can attack the Golem itself? @Mazer Rackham Am I right in assuming that the Unconscious Thralls are basically out of the game? Given that Psychic Shriek going Unconscious from Fatigue says they are knocked out for (10-TB) minutes, and each Structured Round is approx 5-10 seconds? (This is assuming I am right about how many Rounds we have left!) Edit: corrected rule location/effect. Edited July 23, 2023 by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: So, I'm guessing we have 9 Rounds (plus Restal's actions in Round 10) before the Core reaches 100% and goes 'boom'? This Round plus 8, before the hive falls (it's a lot of rocks). 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: Plus, looks like we will indeed need to target the shield generators on either side of the room before we can attack the Golem itself? Pfff, no, no, no - nothing at all to see there...move along...ignore them...totally unimportant...concentrate on the DISTRACTION CARNIFEX, er beastly-hand-shaky-boy in the room. He's big, grr! And gribbly! Rarrgh! 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: @Mazer Rackham Am I right in assuming that the Unconscious Thralls are basically out of the game? If it isn't removed from play, it isn't out of the game. Edited July 23, 2023 by Mazer Rackham Trokair and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Question: is Thrall 2 still considered to be Unconscious at this point? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Depends on if Nicios nullifies the power. If not, wakey wakey. You should assume this will not happen until Thrall 2's turn, so although Reynard may 'feel' the weird power around him, he will not understand what it means (and can therefore not do anything proactively, unfortunately). EDIT: Just as an aside to this - given the Golem's proclivities, and the ample foreshadowing this 'possession' of not dead people shouldn't be too far out of narrative coherency... Edited July 24, 2023 by Mazer Rackham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Shooting into melee combat question, as the Warden is so big dose the normal -20 for shooting into melee count if Bardas were to called shot the head again? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 GM ONLY: Spoiler To be honest, I was already planning on Charging Thrall 2? Unconscious target, AND gets me close to the less guarded generator? If that is ok that I get to crump him while he's still down? If he's now awake, I'll switch to a different target? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Yes. Can you at least give us an idea if we are hurting it. From the description it does not seem too fazed, but is that because we are just bouncing of it (aside from a point or two maybe) or because it is soo tanky. The former would suggest that Bardas and Saxa are better employed elsewhere while the latter means we just needs to keep going. Edited July 24, 2023 by Trokair Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 Lysi ONLY: Spoiler I'm going to PM. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, Trokair said: Can you at least give us an idea if we are hurting it. From the description it does not seem too fazed, but is that because we are just bouncing of it (aside from a point or two maybe) or because it is soo tanky. The former would suggest that Bardas and Saxa are better employed elsewhere while the latter means we just needs to keep going. I had a whole post laid out explaining my innermost thoughts, hopes and fears. Instead, if @Lord_Ikka wants to attempt a Test of some kind, I can then provide feedback IC. Does that help? Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Huh??? I think I missed something somewhere... Carry on, nothign to see here. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Trokair said: Carry on, nothign to see here. Nothing at all! (I wrote the post out, but deleted it, and the offer of a Psychic Test replaced it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 @Mazer Rackham sorry for the wall of green text in my most recent post. I hope that all makes sense. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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