Lautrec the Embraced Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 If a character, let's say a Indomitus Terminator sarge, is equiped with a master-crafted power weapon, how does it affect legion specific weapon upgrade that goes like, I paraphrase, 'Any character with Legiones Astartes [...] that can take a power weapon may instead take [...] weapon'. Can you swap a MC power weapon in that way? (Also possible you can just swap your power fist, it is a 'power' weapon but not certain if it is the power weapon required...) I'm thinking about swapping that particular power weapon for a chain glaive but the same idea could very well apply to phoenix spears, scythes... I believe the most likely scenario is a 'no', as a MC [weapon] is not the same as [weapon], besides, what would happen to master-crafted after the upgrade... On the other hand, with a more lenient approach, it doesn't seem to be such a nefarious breach of rules - you're replacing a better weapon than the one the rules allowed you to. Besides, master-crafted is a USR, right? There isn't I believe a separate weapon entry for 'MC Power sword' , so maybe it should be allowed to be swapped as it is just an augmented power weapon. So, wanted to inquire how more well-versed folks would approach this conundrum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375288-upgrading-master-crafted-power-weapon/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I think this is the same answer as the Twin Linked question further down the HH rules page. There is no such thing as a Master Crafted Weapon, there are only weapons with the Master Crafted type. It sounds like semantics, and in a way it is, but a Power Sword is a Power Sword whether it's master crafted or not, just like a Heavy Bolter is still a Heavy Bolter even if it's twin linked. Lautrec the Embraced 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375288-upgrading-master-crafted-power-weapon/#findComment-5851973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 To answer your other question, power fists, thunder hammers and lightning claws are all "Power" weapons and eligible to be swapped for chainglaives etc. It's in the armoury. Lautrec the Embraced 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375288-upgrading-master-crafted-power-weapon/#findComment-5851984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Yea, "master crafted power sword" is just shorthand for "power sword that has the master crafted special rule in addition to its other special rules". It's not a unique sub-weapon, and any rules precedent that differentiated the two was from last edition. I'd say go for it, and chalk another one up on the list of "took 5 years of development time" lol. Lautrec the Embraced 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375288-upgrading-master-crafted-power-weapon/#findComment-5851985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lautrec the Embraced Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) Thanks everyone, I haven't expected so much common sense in the rulebook Edited July 31, 2022 by Lautrec the Embraced Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375288-upgrading-master-crafted-power-weapon/#findComment-5852059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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