BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 That’s solid… the Vindicator Laser Destroyer is an amazing tank as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5902986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Yeah totally! My working theory is thus: The Astraeus is 30 wounds and one target, whilst the Kratos and Vindicator Laser Destroyer is a two target combination totally 29 wounds. 555pts (for the plasma and Heavy bolter options) compared to 505pts for the 2 tanks (with additional Multi-melta)... The Astraeus was part of a winning tournament list and I'd say the combination of the Vindicator Laser Destroyer and Kratos should in theory do similar on the table. The Macro Accelerator Cannon is a big draw. Really powerful weapon for its utility. However, the Laser Destroyer is equally powerful against single targets for its impact and threat, taking some slack off the Kratos. Edited January 24, 2023 by Captain Idaho BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5902999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The ability to stick in the Devastator Doctrine is a definite boost for the Kratos, whatever loadout you choose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5903005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Yeah, Heavy Bolters and Volkite getting a bonus to AP makes them a lot more useful en masse, though I must confess I'd probably avoid the Heavy Bolters still since Volkite just seems like a better option. And Lascannons love AP-4! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5903009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 The Kratos is just a fantastic looking tank as well !! Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5903022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I hd a 2k game at the weekend using two Kratos and Guilliman and the tanks performed wonderfully. The pair of them held a flank on their own and drew alot of fire which saved a few of my troops for counter attacking 'da jumping' mobs and deepstriking stormboyz. In the end the Volkite Kratos suffered three wounds turn one which were healed by the Techmarine and the new lascannon and Melta Kratos was unharmed until the last turn when a suicidal big mek managed nine wounds off between shooting and combat. I've no doubt against an opponent with more ranged (and accurate) antitank I'd lose one or both tanks early on. But they are great fun to play with so I'm not too fussed about the list not being very competitive. Captain Idaho and Marshal Mittens 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5919563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 Kratos seems like a viable strategy actually. I'm tempted by an all Volkite version but I do so hate fishing for 6s! Iron Father Ferrum and Casual Heresy 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5919576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Honestly sixes on the volkite Kratos is great, but it has enough high strength damage 2 shots that it can still mow down entire squads at a time with ease without generating a single mortal wound. The very low AP can be annoying when your facing an opponent with decent armour saves, but being able to stay in Devestator doctrine longer can help mitigate that. The high strength and damage 2 does mean it's a threat to vehicles and monsters as well. But to give the list some more high strength, high damaage teeth, the 2nd Kratos has 4x lascannons, melta blast gun and a pintle multi melta. I'm runnng both of mine close to Guilliman to re-roll 1s to hit, with a Techmarine nearby to heal damage, tell one to hit on 2s, and carry seal of Oath around. BLACK BLŒ FLY, Iron Father Ferrum and Captain Idaho 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5919588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 I have only used my Melta/Lascannon one so far; it did ok. For me it was not amazing, but it was overall very decent. Vehicles have not been in the best spot in a few editions. I hope most/all of the HH stuff makes it over to 40k, I really like the new kits and the ease of building most of them. The Kratos is in a good place where it almost looks and feels like a super heavy, but its not too expensive and doesn't have so massive a foot print that it's not easily playable. I like it. My Dark Angels will have the Choom wagon because DAOT tech, and I hope it will deliver many wins for the Choom God. Casual Heresy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5931358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Hopefully the shake up for 10th makes its way better Casual Heresy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5931571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I am hoping 10th will see more HH vehicles being ported to 40K. I really want to bring my Spartan out to play. Casual Heresy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375416-how-are-you-finding-the-performance-of-your-kratos/page/3/#findComment-5931593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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