Emperor Ming Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Captain Caine 24th said: 100mm base is a big red flag, especially if LOS only, low T, or low M. These dudes look like a straight liability. Same thoughts here, fingers crossed for good rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Off table support has been a thing in older editions, Im just gonna handwavium it as they have just bought the support on table. A lot more believable than 'Cawl the wonderful made it'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Wow these new Castellans models have me excited! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/10/the-cadian-castellan-wields-the-guard-like-a-finely-honed-weapon/ Quote Unlike regular Command Squads, Castellans don’t go into battle accompanied by a retinue. They move among their troops, issuing orders and directing fire wherever it’s needed, all while extending re-rolls to every CORE unit in range. Astra Militarum officers can all boost the effectiveness of their Guardsmen with orders, but the Castellan can issue two per turn. What's that hiding in the background? Edited October 10, 2022 by duz_ Jaipii, Emperor Ming, TCC and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) The castellan article mentions he can be used by Catachan and krieg. teaser about multi-regiment kits coming soon? as for the tank it looks like a baneblade to me. Edited October 10, 2022 by Inquisitor_Lensoven The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Similar turret but positioning and spacing of the autocannon isn't the same Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, duz_ said: Wow these new Castellans models have me excited! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/10/the-cadian-castellan-wields-the-guard-like-a-finely-honed-weapon/ What's that hiding in the background? Came to post the same, the tank is not something I have seen before and could therefore be a sneak peek at the new tank rumoured. duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 The dorn is rumored to have two battle cannons. it may just be a redesigned baneblade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Sneaky gitz!! The new tank (is that’s what this is) looks like it’s gonna be awesome! From what I can make out the chassis looks more rounded than a Baneblade. I’m hoping Inquisitor_Lensoven is right and it’s a duel kit! I suppose it wouldn’t be too difficult to include a rebreather head! Things are getting exciting now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 It's probably just going to have two turret options Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 All I know is I’ll be very disappointed if the dorn is so close to a baneblade in aesthetics that a fuzzy picture makes it unclear what it is. Warhead01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKoolPants Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Some exciting rules synergies are starting to pop up. Is it too much to hope that the Castellan will give a full to-hit re-roll, SM Captain style? If so, that’s a huge buff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, LtColKool said: Some exciting rules synergies are starting to pop up. Is it too much to hope that the Castellan will give a full to-hit re-roll, SM Captain style? If so, that’s a huge buff. Personally I hope not. Too many damn rerolls in general. I’d much prefer a straight stat buff of +1 to hit/wound or +1 to random shot/damage weapons rather than constant rerolls Might just be an aesthetic thing, but anyone notice the lens/optics on the FOBs? Maybe some sort of targeting/fire control device that will provide better BS than normal? the thunderstrike would be an example of precedent Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKoolPants Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Personally I hope not. Too many damn rerolls in general. I’d much prefer a straight stat buff of +1 to hit/wound or +1 to random shot/damage weapons rather than constant rerolls I totally feel that. I go back and forth between wanting balanced, streamlined rules for Guard, and wanting to absolutely power-creep-crush everybody, never mind the consequences. Inquisitor_Lensoven and duz_ 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, LtColKool said: I totally feel that. I go back and forth between wanting balanced, streamlined rules for Guard, and wanting to absolutely power-creep-crush everybody, never mind the consequences. I understand that as well considering how weak we’ve been and for how long. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Kasrkin sprues are up. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/11/our-operatives-have-secured-images-of-the-new-kill-team-sprues/ They look really good to me, loads of options and not much unnecessary junk. The models don't look to fixed in their poses either which some newer kits have been duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Close ups of models. Sprue images in warcom link above. Individual model shots Spoiler librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Loads of heads so should be able to have all of them with fully closed helms (struggling to see too much detail on my phone). duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Yeh the pics of the heads are the back of the helmet so impossible to tell. Like you said there's soo many of them having them all masked up seems possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 It looks like the respirators are separate, counting numbers it looks like 12 respirators (so probably 2 hanging loose and 10 to fit on the helmets). Then enough helmets for 2 per body, so I assume that half have visors/goggles or whatever and the remainder are open faced. Also looks like there are multiple options for the marksman and Comms specialist as well duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenScorpion Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Looking at the sprues, the karskins seem to have a part layout somewhat similar to things like the militarum tempestus kits, which is both a good and a bad thing, potentially meaning they would be similar enough to be mixed, but also meaning that lots of stuff has poses that are only meant to work in a particular way or with specific bodies/parts. The tempestus have the option for beret or closed helmets for all soldiers, so my guess is that here we will have something similar but with open/closed helmets. Some of the 3-part weapon arms (for dual hand weapons) seem to fit similarly to the tempestus, which was of the downsides of that kit in my opinion. Lets see how these look when they are out in the wild and people start going crazy with them. duz_ and The Pounder 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 I already forgot is it 2 army rules and 3 for Kasrkin or 1 army rule and 2 for Kasrkin? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Kasarkin get an extra rule??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Emperor Ming said: Kasarkin get an extra rule??? Yep Assuming the army doctrine rumors are real, we get 2, and we have a reason to expect sentinels will get a pretty good buff since 2 of the rules specifically utilize them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I saw someone point out the new tank has a similar silhouette as the British Matilda tank. I hope it's not a direct rip off of that. Since that's one ugly tank Spoiler Warhead01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKoolPants Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 The more I look at these Kasrkin, the sexier they get. Will an all-Kasrkin force be a thing? 4 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Yep Assuming the army doctrine rumors are real, we get 2, and we have a reason to expect sentinels will get a pretty good buff since 2 of the rules specifically utilize them. Have we seen specific rumors on these yet about what the rules will look like for Cadians/Kasrkin? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/3/#findComment-5874820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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