sairence Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Considering the consistent rumours of the turret rule, it was always going to stay at a base 4+ BS. They were never going to give us a unit you can bring multiples off and that can annihilate a target from across the table on a 2+. Besides, we now have a built in 3+ to hit on ALL our main vehicle weapons across the board. That's a massive buff and I'm here for it. I have 15 Russes and I will squeeze as many as I can into a list at least once. Khornestar, duz_ and SteveAntilles 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5880907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarms48 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, sairence said: Considering the consistent rumours of the turret rule, it was always going to stay at a base 4+ BS. They were never going to give us a unit you can bring multiples off and that can annihilate a target from across the table on a 2+. Besides, we now have a built in 3+ to hit on ALL our main vehicle weapons across the board. That's a massive buff and I'm here for it. I have 15 Russes and I will squeeze as many as I can into a list at least once. Well, if the rumours of the Take Aim order are true Scions and Kasrkins will have 2+ to hit and AP-3 on base weapons. You can drop Scions anyway and blast them. duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5880966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 15 hours ago, ImperialWarrior said: Anyone want to speculate about the effect of the platoon keyword? im kinda thinking JOs in command squads will only be able to issue orders units with the keyword, and maybe confer an Ld benefit of some sort, or something along those lines anyway I was thinking it might work like the Dark Eldar codex where you get free detachments if they all have a keyword so perhaps it will be free patrol detachments if all units have the Platoon keyword. ImperialWarrior 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5880981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialWarrior Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, redmapa said: I was thinking it might work like the Dark Eldar codex where you get free detachments if they all have a keyword so perhaps it will be free patrol detachments if all units have the Platoon keyword. That makes sense as the detachments boil down to platoons with support units Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5881028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Quote The Armoured Sentinel gets all the same upgrades, but trades in that extra Movement for more armour plating. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/11/07/cadia-stands-the-new-astra-militarum-battle-heretics-harder-than-ever/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=warhammer-40,000&utm_content=cadians07112022 Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 The CSTs getting exploding 6s probably mean HoTE is gone. I can’t imagine GW allowing any units to double dip in regards to rolling 6s. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 None of those field guns are worth 70pts What were gw smoking domsto and TCC 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Emperor Ming said: None of those field guns are worth 70pts What were gw smoking Better of having 9 lascanons doing 9 shots vs 4 big lascanon shots (similar points). Maybe there is more to the weapon? Hopefully mortal wounds too. If not I will EBay mine. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristlybadger Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Could it be that the 70pts are for 2, as the squad is 2-4? Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Emperor Ming said: None of those field guns are worth 70pts What were gw smoking Where you getting 70pts from? Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Where you getting 70pts from? Guard leaks - Google Sheets From Mordian Glorys YouTube channel, he made a handy spreadsheet They are from an old play test version, so hopefully they are wrong Edited November 7, 2022 by Emperor Ming Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarms48 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Emperor Ming said: None of those field guns are worth 70pts What were gw smoking Yep, been saying that too. I hope it’s 70 per 2. Weird way to take them in pairs, but at 35 points they’re about the same as those Grot Mek Gunz. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Surprised the new warcom article hasn't been posted yet Mix Your Favourite Regiments in the New Codex: Astra Militarum More on the traits and how they work in the article. There's a fair few previews. Good to see more info, although still haven't figured out how they all gel together yet... Emperor Ming and Inquisitor_Lensoven 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 If that means a tank officer can no longer order himself, we can add that to the pile of nerfs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 15 doctrines, is that the same number as the mordian glory leaks? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 For having lost regiment traits 15 is rather.....low Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: For having lost regiment traits 15 is rather.....low I'd agree, it also seems weird that the rules (WT, sub-faction rule, relic strat) for the named regiments is gone, especially when every other faction follows that format. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldWherewolf Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Emperor Ming said: If that means a tank officer can no longer order himself, we can add that to the pile of nerfs Unless the officer can order himself, then the orders will carry over to platoon/squadron units within 6". Why that isn't 12" for tanks is unknown, and we don't know what Vox casters will do, or if vehicles will use their come with radios... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Quote The Death Korps of Krieg and Catachan Jungle Fighters are both getting their own individual datasheets in the new book. Krieg troopers have access to the many options included in their Kill Team kit – such as sniper rifles and medi-packs – while Catachans boast two flamers and a particularly vicious close combat ability. Quote Commissars might be the furthest things from Sly Marbo’s modus operandi – championing order and discipline – and their management style was previously delivered exclusively at the barrel of a bolt pistol. Having learned that some troops respond better to gentle encouragement than the imminent threat of execution, they now have access to Prefectus Orders. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/11/09/death-korps-sly-marbo-and-more-get-major-upgrades-in-codex-astra-militarum/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=warhammer-40,000&utm_content=cadiaarticle09112022 Edited November 9, 2022 by Dezron duz_ and TCC 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The fact you can move the deathstrike marker on your turn makes them a potentially very useful tool. I can see the threat of it falling and keeping your opponent's army spread out/away from certain objectives being more useful than the potential damage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War of the Eagle Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Yeah, after your opponent moves off the objective just move onto it. If they take it back nuke it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I'm curious, do have to fire the weapon the following turn after placing the marker? Or do can you keep moving it around the board until you're ready? Also is it auto hit? Mint transhuman for DKOK is nice @Jud CottrellCottrelland and @Captain Semper must be happy with that. Good to see Sly will be making an appearance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Glorious Thermomuclear smiting. Dear Grid-coordinates indeed. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 You can keep moving it, the action is change target or fire But is it worth it at 150? for something that gives the enemy a turn to move away and even if you do hit something, on a 1 it still does nothing, that's just very up in the air for me 150 is a russ doing something every turn till it dies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, duz_ said: Mint transhuman for DKOK is nice @Jud CottrellCottrelland and @Captain Semper must be happy with that. Is anyone going to really take the dkok squads at 80pts 80pts for 10 t3 guys, is just bananas Or is everyone just going to use cadians and call them (insert name) Since it looks like all the leaked rules are correct, we can only hope the leaked points are wrong Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376158-guard-reveals/page/9/#findComment-5882623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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