Karhedron Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Prot said: I would say it is his Obsec Aura to Core AND Characters (including himself) that makes him most appealing. I still want to see a reroll wounds to UM's though. This is basically just the existing Rites of War WLT with an extra 3" range. Handy, for sure but nothing remarkable. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376772-guilliman-rules-rumours-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5892507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The ObSec is actually pretty underwhelming for me. In the first place, I'm already doing something like that with the Chapter Ancient WL Trait and Hero of the Chapter. I'd have preferred they use the same template for Guilliman they did for Morty and Magnus. He gets three chapter Warlord Traits - especially the three most representative of the (sub) Faction. Maybe Adept of the Codex, Calm Under fire, and Warden of Macragge. The changes to his reroll bubble (what used to be the XIII Primarch ability) isn't so bad for him, but it bodes very poorly for Calgar, generic Chapter Masters and Captains. If the Primarch doesn't still have reroll all misses, the Chapter Master is unlikely to have one squad reroll all misses plus reroll 1's, and who knows what Captains will have as the strength of the bubble ebbs as it trickles down. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376772-guilliman-rules-rumours-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5899927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 I actually think bringing back the unlimited number of Command Points through Adept of the Codex would be a great boost for Guilliman. It made Ultramarines useful on the table and able to utilise lots of bonuses without fear, propping them up through superior Strategum usage. I never saw it as game breaking for Ultramarines as we weren't otherwise super killy and compared to other factions now... BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376772-guilliman-rules-rumours-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5899970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 What I like is that each HQ might represent some facet of the Chapter but that the Primarch has them all. Much like the Emperor has all the abilities of each of the Primarch and each primarch was just one facet of the Emperor - and usually a light/dark side of the same coin as another Primarch. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376772-guilliman-rules-rumours-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5900002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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