Blade of Sigismund Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I just read through the season updates for secondaries and am having some thoughts; would appreciate input for perspective. - our chapter secondary is more complex than I usually like, but the end game portion is usually simple and gives 5 points. That means you only have to get the grind eq 2x to get 13 points. 3x to max. I compare that to oaths, where unless you completely own the center of the table the whole game, you're looking at 8-10. - Space Marine secondaries are still all reliant on enemy interaction except for oaths. This continues the problem of competing against passive secondaries from last season. - Shock assault has the same problem where it's dependent on aggressive enemy positioning. - I'm thinking that building with big units and recently reduced vehicles may make a good synergy between 'carry out your vows' and 'grind them down'. Then you're just picking between killing characters and killing big stuff. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Marshal Laeroth and I just recorded a video on secondaries actually! We'll be posting it soon, but I'm thinking that SM have a lot more options now both because of the secondary changes and the points drops allowing for more options in our lists. Shock Tactics and Oaths are going to be staples I think. If you aren't scoring Shock tactics because you don't have any objectives to take back then you are probably already winning the game! LameBeard, BLACK BLΠFLY, Karhedron and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Raise Banners is a great choice for the third secondary. Emperor Ming and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, BLACK BLΠFLY said: Raise Banners is a great choice for the third secondary. It pairs quite well with Sticky ObjSec on Troops units 2 hours ago, Acebaur said: If you aren't scoring Shock tactics because you don't have any objectives to take back then you are probably already winning the game! That is a remarkably good point, I may have to re-evaluate this secondary. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade of Sigismund Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 I run in to issues with shock tactics when an opponent remains in their deployment zone or takes a heavy flank. It's usually not a good choice for the long game to overcommit on a well held position t1-2. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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