Blade of Sigismund Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I'm resigning myself to Oaths of Moment being one of our best secondaries, and am deciding how I want to camp the center of the table. So far I've got: - Infiltrators - 20 Primaris Crusaders with Grimaldus and/or Apothecary - Armored units like a Leviathan or Repulsor Any experience or other ideas would be appreciated. I'm trying to stay as fluffy as possible while meeting the objective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Anything tough and tanky. Assault Centurions probably good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5908837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 The 20 man PCS with Grimaldus buffing them is the best choice I have found… they just setup camp there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5908851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Laeroth Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 19 hours ago, BLACK BLŒ FLY said: The 20 man PCS with Grimaldus buffing them is the best choice I have found… they just setup camp there. Man. You are a risky one. :D 20 PCS are ultra hard to fit reliably in a 6" circle at the center of the board. templargdt 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5909212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 If you are committed to taking and holding the centre then you need something that is both tanky and hard-hitting because some armies will simply try and throw sledge-hammer units at you to try and drive you off. Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield Terminators supported by an Apothecary are about as tough as you are going to find but also have enough of a counter-punch to threaten anything that your opponent tries to send in to shift them in melee BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5909214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Marshal Laeroth said: Man. You are a risky one. :D 20 PCS are ultra hard to fit reliably in a 6" circle at the center of the board. There’s a character buried in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5909218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Anyone using assault centurions for this? I have been using assault terminators but having something that can shoot seems like a good plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 If we still had Armour of Contempt, I would say that the Assault Cents could be worth it. But currently I think the 1+/4++ and extra wounds of the Terminators has the edge. The Assault Cents shooting is short ranged. I would prefer the sheer durability of Terminators and get my shooting elsewhere. templargdt 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I’m currently play testing cents vs hammernators. The former definitely need a Chief Apothecary to babysit. The changes to reserve really help a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade of Sigismund Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 I've played a few games with 10-20 crusaders and support holding the center. It can work, but 2cp a turn on transhuman adds up, the points cost is high, and id rather be aggressive with that big of a chunk. Same generally goes for terminators. Those guys are usually bringing the pain to the enemy DZ. Picked up a leviathan I'm going to run up the middle with a techmarine to heal. Hopefully inbuilt 2+ and DR1 will justify the price point, and it looks cool. If that doesn't work I'll go back to crusaders with grimaldus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 15 hours ago, Blade of Sigismund said: I've played a few games with 10-20 crusaders and support holding the center. It can work, but 2cp a turn on transhuman adds up, the points cost is high, and id rather be aggressive with that big of a chunk. Same generally goes for terminators. Those guys are usually bringing the pain to the enemy DZ. Picked up a leviathan I'm going to run up the middle with a techmarine to heal. Hopefully inbuilt 2+ and DR1 will justify the price point, and it looks cool. If that doesn't work I'll go back to crusaders with grimaldus. Leviathan is an interesting choice, but isn't it pretty close to a Redemptor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 It has more options, 2+ Sv but not core. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade of Sigismund Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, templargdt said: Leviathan is an interesting choice, but isn't it pretty close to a Redemptor? More wounds, 2+ save, and some decent guns. 2+ is big because the main idea is to tank. I missed that he's not core, so obsec via warlord traits is off the table. Not near codex, does strength of Conviction work on non-core? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 It does not unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377520-holding-the-center/#findComment-5910682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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