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I like the idea of the Ironfire r.o.w but not sure how it plays. Does anyone run it or gone against it? What are your thoughts?

 

Here is a list I put together for it

 

++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA -   IV: Iron Warriors) [2,997Pts] ++

+ Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

+ Allegiance: +

  IV: Iron Warriors

Allegiance: Traitor

+ Rite of War: +

Rite of War: The Ironfire (IW)

+ HQ: +

Centurion [135Pts]
. Siege Breaker: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Thunder Hammer
. Siege Breaker

Centurion [95Pts]
. Master of Signals: Artificer Armour
. . Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Master of Signals

Praetor, Cataphractii [135Pts]: Tyrant of the Dodekathon, Warlord
. Legion Cataphractii Praetor: Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

+ Elites: +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [185Pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Autocannon, Gravis Bolt Cannon

Techmarine Covenant [75Pts]
. Techmarine: Bolt Pistol, Meltabombs, Nuncio-Vox, Power Axe

Terminator Cataphractii Squad [675Pts]
. Cataphractii Sergeant: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Land Raider Spartan
. . Land Raider Spartan: 2x Lascannon Array, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Heavy Bolter

+ Troops: +

Breacher Squad [155Pts]
.   Legion Breacher Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour
. 9x  Breachers (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter

Breacher Squad [185Pts]
.   Legion Breacher Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Meltabombs, Power Armour, Shrapnel Bolter
. 9x  Breachers (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Shrapnel Bolter

Tactical Squad [162Pts]
.  Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Lightning Claw, Power Armour, Shrapnel Bolter
. 8x  Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Shrapnel Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Nuncio-Vox, Shrapnel Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Legion Vexilla, Shrapnel Bolter

Tactical Squad [180Pts]
.  Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Power Fist, Shrapnel Bolter
. 8x  Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Shrapnel Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Nuncio-Vox, Shrapnel Bolter
. Rhino Transport

+ Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad [245Pts]: Autocannon
.  Legion Support Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol
. Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Nuncio-Vox

Legion Basilisk Squadron [385Pts]
. Basilisk: Hull (Front) Mounted Heavy Bolter
. Basilisk: Hull (Front) Mounted Heavy Bolter

Predator Squadron  [385Pts]
. Predator: 2x Lascannons, Minor Combi-Weapon - Flamer, Predator Cannon
. Predator: 2x Lascannons, Minor Combi-Weapon - Flamer, Predator Cannon
. Predator: 2x Lascannons, Predator Cannon, Twin-linked Bolter

++ Total: [2,997Pts] ++

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I see quite a few problems.

For one, Basilisks suck, no if ands or buts. The only two artillery pieces worth bringing are Scorpius tanks and Quad launchers. Bassies look cool on the table and are thematic but GW in its infinite wisdom nerfed artillery into the ground. My Medusas are collecting dust for the same reason. We only have so many heavy support slots unfortunately. On the bright side Scorpius tanks are cheaper than Bassies so you save some points.

 

Number two- Whats the point of your Cataphractii squad? Right now they cant even take on another equivalent terminator squad. I recommend at least one in five terminators take a chainfist for the inevitable clash they will have with a Contemptor. A couple power fists as well. Look into Dominator Terminators too, easy to convert standard cataphractii into them and they all carry thunderhammers or chainfists and get the bonus of a multi-melta heavy weapon.

 

if you are going to bring a HSS with autocannons, you might as well make them Iron Havocs for roughly same points cost.  

 

Breachers are pricy but with an apothecary they are a hard to move brick. I would cut one squad and add them to the other for a bigger brick and run them down the middle under protection of the quad launchers with phosphex.

 

Not a huge fan of predators but then I have nothing against them either. Dont overlook graviton maces on guys with power swords, its a really nice upgrade.

 I also just realized neither Golg nor Khyr are warsmiths anymore. I think they were in the last edition

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