yan Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Im concidering to start my second 40k army. and as you might have guessed, i fell in love with the orks. Im hooked on the goffs hord style playing of the game. and was concidering to go for something like this: ----- Ghazgkhull beastboss on squigossaur boss zagstruk makari weirdboy 10x boys 10x boys 10x boys 10x boys 10x gretchin 5x kommandos 5x kommandos 10x nobz 3x squighog boy 5x stormboys battlewagon battlewagon killrig trukk ----- or Ghazgkhull boss zagstruk makari weirdboy 10x boys 10x boys 10x boys 10x boys 10x boys 10x boys 10x gretchin 5x kommandos 5x kommandos 10x nobz 5x stormboys battlewagon battlewagon battlewagon trukk trukk trukk are this reasonoble lists to work towards? I would like to play semi competitive. i do play tournaments but Im not expecting to win, but ofcourse doing my best and i do enjoy list building. I don't know orks that well yet, so i would like some advice. onpaper battlewagons loaded with boys seem pretty effecient for exemple, are they that great? and are killrigs even worth it? what's the better deal boys or beast snaggaboys? and are they easy to convert from one another? I'm a bit on a budget and could buy a lot of secondhand boys. could i turn them also into kommandos and stormboys for exemple? or are they really different models? lookig forward to hear your experience! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Hey, Orks are great, what’s you other army? When doing the lists think about your secondaries and let us know what they are too - if you take ‘the good bits’ you really want to take more gretchin yan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5916788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 Im playing space wolves at the moment. So im comfortable with the melee phase and really enjoy it, but also look forward to add some dakka and roll buckets of dice. as i see it now I would go for green tide, banners and maybe stomp m good, depending on the matchup ofcours. maybe more gretchin seem like a good plan to have some flexibility with secondarys. any advice on battlewagon vs killrig and boys vs beast snagga boys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5917002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 As secondaries go - get the good bits is an easy 15pts if you build the list into it. Min 2 gretchin to do the action and at least one other unit like commando’s that could do it if turn 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5917324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 If I was to start again I would buy beastnagger boys to go in the killrigs. Boys are cheaper so you may want lots of them to help with green tide. I have found Gaz can be really great but also he can easily be dropped - I was playing last night and he died T2 before I could Wagh - this was against demons (who used shooting, physic and melee to chip through his 4 wound bracket). I’m changing my future lists to drop Gaz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5917327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I also find a Big Mek with kustom force field, I use the strat to increase range to 9inch and 5++ to protect all my vehicles if I don’t get to go first on turn 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5917329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 Does the custom force field give a 5++? I only thought a 6. But that seems like a nice trick. do you rol gaz in a battlewagon? tnx for all the advice btw Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5918323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 2:05 PM, TCC said: If I was to start again I would buy beastnagger boys to go in the killrigs. Boys are cheaper so you may want lots of them to help with green tide. I have found Gaz can be really great but also he can easily be dropped - I was playing last night and he died T2 before I could Wagh - this was against demons (who used shooting, physic and melee to chip through his 4 wound bracket). I’m changing my future lists to drop Gaz. Do you want to share your list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5918337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 11 hours ago, yan said: Does the custom force field give a 5++? I only thought a 6. But that seems like a nice trick. do you rol gaz in a battlewagon? tnx for all the advice btw I have rolled him in it in the past but prefer now to stuff it with 18 Boyz with the truck boy ability so I can alpha strike turn 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5918500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) This is my current list, it’s not super competitive with the Morkanaut but it’s fun and does quite well most of the time. I put the Morkanaut into deep strike with the strat teleportation so T2 I bring it as close to behind the enemy deployment as possible and then charge it into their deployment (I pick the secondary behind enemy lines for this, T3 the three mega nobs get out to help with behind enemy lines. ++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Orks) [124 PL, 2,000pts, 6CP] ++ + Configuration [6CP] + Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Heavy Support Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [6CP] Clan Kultur: Goffs Detachment Command Cost Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen + HQ [23 PL, 440pts] + Big Mek w/ Kustom Force Field [5 PL, 90pts]: Choppa, Grot Oiler [5pts], Kustom Force Field, Slugga, Stikkbombs Ghazghkull Thraka [15 PL, 300pts]: Gork's Klaw, Mork's Roar, Stikkbombs, Warlord Makari [3 PL, 50pts]: Makari's Stabba + Troops [14 PL, 232pts] + Boyz [10 PL, 152pts]: Trukk Boyz . Boss Nob [8pts]: Choppa, Slugga, Stikkbombs . Ork Boy w/ 'Eavy Weapon [8pts]: Big Shoota, Stikkbombs . 17x Ork Boy w/ Slugga & Choppa [136pts]: 17x Choppa, 17x Slugga, 17x Stikkbombs Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts] . 10x Gretchin [40pts]: 10x Grot Blaster Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts] . 10x Gretchin [40pts]: 10x Grot Blaster + Elites [20 PL, 303pts] + Kommandos [8 PL, 93pts] . Boss Nob [16pts]: Power Klaw [5pts], Slugga, Stikkbombs . 7x Kommando [77pts]: 7x Choppa, 7x Slugga, 7x Stikkbombs Meganobz [6 PL, 105pts] . Boss Meganob [35pts]: Killsaw [5pts], Kustom Shoota, Stikkbombs . Meganob [35pts]: Killsaw [5pts], Kustom Shoota, Stikkbombs . Meganob [35pts]: Killsaw [5pts], Kustom Shoota, Stikkbombs Meganobz [6 PL, 105pts] . Boss Meganob [35pts]: Killsaw [5pts], Kustom Shoota, Stikkbombs . Meganob [35pts]: Killsaw [5pts], Kustom Shoota, Stikkbombs . Meganob [35pts]: Killsaw [5pts], Kustom Shoota, Stikkbombs + Fast Attack [16 PL, 200pts] + DeffKoptas [16 PL, 200pts] . DeffKopta [50pts]: Kopta Rokkits, Slugga, Spinnin' Blades, Stikkbombs . DeffKopta [50pts]: Kopta Rokkits, Slugga, Spinnin' Blades, Stikkbombs . DeffKopta [50pts]: Kopta Rokkits, Slugga, Spinnin' Blades, Stikkbombs . DeffKopta [50pts]: Kopta Rokkits, Slugga, Spinnin' Blades, Stikkbombs + Heavy Support [28 PL, 410pts] + Battlewagon [8 PL, 135pts]: 'ard Case [15pts], Deff Rolla [15pts] Deff Dreads [6 PL, 85pts] . Deff Dread [6 PL, 85pts]: Big Shoota, Big Shoota, Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw Deff Dreads [7 PL, 100pts]: Stompamatic Pistons [1 PL, 15pts] . Deff Dread [6 PL, 85pts]: Big Shoota, Big Shoota, Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw Killa Kans [7 PL, 90pts] . Killa Kan [30pts]: Big Shoota, Kan Klaw . Killa Kan [30pts]: Big Shoota, Kan Klaw . Killa Kan [30pts]: Big Shoota, Kan Klaw + Dedicated Transport [4 PL, 70pts] + Trukk [4 PL, 70pts]: Big Shoota + Lord of War [19 PL, 345pts] + Morkanaut [19 PL, 345pts]: Klaw of Gork (Or possibly Mork), Kustom Force Field [30pts], Kustom Mega-Blasta, Kustom Mega-Zappa, 2x Rokkit Launcha, 2x Twin Big Shoota ++ Total: [124 PL, 6CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) secondaries: get the good bits behind enemy lines then optional I default to: stomp em good but will change this if it’s another good melee army Edited March 10, 2023 by TCC MithrilForge and yan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5918503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 23 hours ago, yan said: Does the custom force field give a 5++? I only thought a 6. But that seems like a nice trick. do you rol gaz in a battlewagon? tnx for all the advice btw it’s a strat for 2CP and the field blows up after also extends the range to 9inch bubble. I do this Turn 1 if the shooting is going to be bad and keep my army close or hidden, then Wagh T2 for the 5+ from that when the Morkanort walks in. yan and MithrilForge 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5918583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Do you like the killa kans? I just bought a second hand army with: 90boys 10 beastsnaggaboys gazghkull 2 bigmek with shockattack gun 2 warboss boss zagstruck warbos on bike weirdboy beast boss 12 nobz 6 lootas 6 flashgitz 5 killa kans Deffkilla wartrike Megatrakk scrapjet trukk battlewagon It was a good deal, but doesn’t all fit in my list. So I want to sell some stuff again to save some money for more battlewagons, komandos, stormboys and gretchin. but what to sell? i thought at least to sell 30 boys. The scrapjet and wartrike, because they don’t really fit in my list. Or are they really good? I don’t want to sell stuff so i have to buy it later again (but im on kind of a budget). also im not sure if I should keep the lootas, flashgitz and killakans? what would you recommend? Edited March 13, 2023 by yan MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377800-joining-the-waaagh/#findComment-5919287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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