TechCaptain Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) House Fásacha marching into battle for the good of the Imperium in WY. Frontier Open 2023 - Warhammer 40k GT 2000 pts, ITC Championship Format (what does this mean?), 5 rounds over 2 days. This will be my first ever ITC tournament and I figure my Knight Army is in the best shape strategy wise (and that isn't saying much.) I want to see how I stack up. But I would like pointers and opinions on how I can make my six Knights work for me. They are the whole of what I own as Knights though I do have some Inquisitors and other armies that I could borrow from if I need to. It's an Arks of Omen based tourney. What I have:Generally using House Vulkar RulesKnight CastellanKnight Crusader Knight PreceptorKnight Armiger Warglaive x2Knight Armiger Moirax Please I need Tournament guidance. Edited April 24, 2023 by TechCaptain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) What weapons are you running on the Moirax? Off the top of my head, with what you have and House Vulker rules this is what I came up with- Points- 20000 CP- 2 House- Vulker Oaths- Defend the Realm, Refuse No Challenge Warglaives (290 points)- 2x with stubbers Moirax (160 points)- 1 w/volkite and claw Knight Castellan (635 points)- 2x siegebreaker cannons Knight Crusader (485 points)- RFBC, Stubber, with Exalted Court (Master of Vox), Heirloom of the house (Armour of the Sainted Ion) and Knight Baron (Ion Bulwark) Knight Preceptor (440 points)- Thunderfist, multi-laser, with Warlord, Warlord Trait (Adamantine Knight), Relic (Sanctuary), and Knightly Teachings (The Folly of Virtue, The Knight's Faith, and the Virtue of Courage) With the Oaths, Defend is a must, the 2CP on your turn will keep you moving, and Refuse No Challenge is probably the easiest one to not get a Troth on as long as you don't fall back. Your Knights really don't want to be in melee, aside from the Preceptor/Warglaives, so the other two Oaths can really penalize you if you take them (Lay Low requiring melee kills for Honor and require a minimum 2 kills in general for not Troth, while Protect forces you to Heroic even with your Castellan/Crusader to not Troth). You don't have a lot of Armigers, so only one Exalted court is really needed/affordable- the Master of Vox will allow you to give your Armigers +1 BS from anywhere (and possibly a CP back on a 5+) and allows the Crusader to not be tied to the Armigers. I would use the Preceptor/Warglaives to push onto a midfield objective, always Teaching The Virtue of Courage to help the Warglaives survive and possibly using The Folly of Virtue to let a Warglaive Renew the Oaths and still shoot if you take that secondary, otherwise the Knight's Faith for exploding 6s to hit, The Crusader and the Moirax rush a second objective. Your Castellan will most likely have to stay back and guard your backfield objective (if you have one) and try to potshot the enemy's big stuff while defending from deepstrikers. Not going to lie, your army is going to be playing on Hard Mode. Knights aren't the greatest right now, our secondaries need some work (all need to be buffed slightly) and the current meta lists all favor going hard in with Armigers rather than big Knights (typically 2/7 or 1/10 in terms of Questoris/Armigers). You're going to lack board presence only having six units and will rely on just basic toughness to survive (thus the WT/Relics that are all about increasing saves). Good news, I'll be at the Frontier Open as well, so you'll have another Imperial Knights player there who will be vying for the Wooden Spoon Edited March 16, 2023 by Lord_Ikka TechCaptain and sairence 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5920428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 Tomorrow is the start. I will try to take plenty of pictures to go with the scoring. Wish me luck, though I understand at least one from here is a possible opponent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5937842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 Yes... TechCaptain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5937908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) So I will now start posting up results and lists. People can make their own judgements on how I did. I liked how it went, the opponents were fun players and I did well. I met my goal of at least one win and averaging above 50 most otherwise. I apologize ahead of time I didn't take pictures during round 5. I blame my getting tired by that point. Wins 2 Battle Points 354 Wins SoS 2.4 Battle Points SoS 69.2 Wins Extended SoS 2.28 Battle Points Extended SoS 72.4 So here is my List. Spoiler HOUSE FÁSACHA OMEN Army Faction: Imperium - Game Mode: Grand Tournament - Army Size: Strikeforce - Regimental Doctrines: ARKS OF OMEN DETACHMENT - Faction: Imperial Knights - Custom Sub-faction: House Vulker Lord of War Armiger Warglaive (145) - Questor cognis heavy stubber Armiger Warglaive (145) - Questor cognis heavy stubber Knight Castellan (625) - Traits: Cunning Commander - Stratagems: Knight Baron Knight Crusader (485) - Warlord - 2 X Questor cognis heavy stubber, Rapid-fire battle cannon - Traits: Blessed by the Sacristans - Relics: Endless Fury - Stratagems: Knight Baron, Heirlooms of the Household - Exalted Court: Master of the Vox Knight Moirax (160) Knight Preceptor (420) - Thunderstrike gauntlet - teachings: The Knights Faith (Aura), The Virtue of Courage (Aura), The Wisdom of Nobility - Relics: Sanctuary - Stratagems: Heirlooms of the Household Stratagems - Heirlooms of the Household (1CP) - Heirlooms of the Household (1CP) - Knight Baron (1CP) - Knight Baron (1CP) Total Command Points: 4/9 Reinforcement Points: 20 Total Points: 2000/2000 His list Spoiler ++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars) [128 PL, 1,999pts, 6CP] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: White Scars Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Elites Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen + Agents of the Imperium + Acolytes [2 PL, 20pts]: Ordo Xenos . Acolyte: Chainsword, Laspistol . Acolyte: Chainsword, Laspistol + HQ + Kor'sarro Khan [6 PL, 100pts] + Troops + Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 100pts]: Helix gauntlet . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant + Elites + Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 150pts]: 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 120pts]: 3x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Bladeguard Veteran Squad [10 PL, 175pts] . 4x Bladeguard Veteran: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4x Master-crafted power sword, 4x Storm Shield . Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol Bladeguard Veteran Squad [10 PL, 175pts] . 4x Bladeguard Veteran: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4x Master-crafted power sword, 4x Storm Shield . Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol Centurion Assault Squad [9 PL, 180pts] . Centurion: Hurricane bolter . . Meltaguns . Centurion: Hurricane bolter . . Meltaguns . Centurion Sergeant: Hurricane bolter . . Meltaguns Primaris Apothecary [5 PL, 100pts, -2CP]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Plume of the Plainsrunner, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Stratagem: Relic of the Chapter Terminator Assault Squad [18 PL, 264pts, -1CP]: Teleport Homer . Assault Terminator Sergeant: Lightning Claw (Pair), Master-Crafted Weapon, Stratagem: Khan's Champion . 7x Assault Terminator w/THSS: 7x Storm shield, 7x Thunder hammer + Fast Attack + Assault Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: Jump Pack . 2x Space Marine: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Combat shield, Lightning Claw, Plasma Pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword Assault Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: Jump Pack . 2x Space Marine: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Combat shield, Lightning Claw, Plasma Pistol . Space Marine w/Eviscerator: Plasma pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [7 PL, 135pts]: Heavy melta rifle . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt + Lord of War + Roboute Guilliman [19 PL, 300pts, 3CP]: Warlord ++ Total: [128 PL, 6CP, 1,999pts] ++ Round 1 was my loss but it was an interesting fight all the way through. Those white scars getting into melee was rough though. Edited April 24, 2023 by TechCaptain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5938834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) Round 2 was my win but I think it is mostly because he is a newer player. I am too, but hey Omnissiah Favored Knights at that time. His List Spoiler ++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Iron Hands) [118 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: Iron Hands Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Elites Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen + HQ + Primaris Chaplain [6 PL, -1CP, 95pts]: 1. Litany of Faith (Aura), 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Litany of Hate (Aura), Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Warlord, Wise Orator Primaris Techmarine [5 PL, -1CP, 85pts]: Chapter Command: Master of the Forge, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Will of Iron + Troops + Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 100pts]: Helix gauntlet . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 100pts]: Helix gauntlet . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant + Elites + Invictor Tactical Warsuit [8 PL, 140pts]: Incendium cannon Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon Scout Squad [4 PL, 60pts] . Scout Sergeant: Sniper rifle, Thunder hammer . Scout w/Heavy weapon: Missile launcher . 3x Scout w/Scout sniper rifle: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Frag & Krak grenades, 3x Scout sniper rifle Terminator Assault Squad [18 PL, 330pts]: Teleport Homer . Assault Terminator Sergeant . . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield . 9x Assault Terminator w/THSS: 9x Storm shield, 9x Thunder hammer + Fast Attack + Assault Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: Jump Pack . Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Combat shield, Plasma Pistol, Thunder hammer . Space Marine w/Eviscerator: Bolt pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword Assault Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: Jump Pack . Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Combat shield, Plasma Pistol, Thunder hammer . Space Marine w/Eviscerator: Bolt pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword + Heavy Support + Devastator Squad [8 PL, 135pts]: Armorium Cherub . Devastator Marine Sergeant: Combi-melta, Thunder hammer . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta Devastator Squad [8 PL, 135pts]: Armorium Cherub . Devastator Marine Sergeant: Combi-melta, Thunder hammer . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta Gladiator Reaper [10 PL, 150pts]: Auto Launchers, Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber + Dedicated Transport + Drop Pod [4 PL, 70pts]: Storm bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 50pts] ++ Total: [118 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++ Edited April 24, 2023 by TechCaptain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5938835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) Round 3 I got stomped pretty handedly by another Knight Player who I think did dang well overall. Bad Dice and my bad placement did me in. His list Spoiler ++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [105 PL, 1CP, 1,990pts] ++ + Configuration + Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Lord of War Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Chivalric Oath: Oath: Defend the Realm, Oath: Lay Low The Tyrants Detachment Command Cost Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen Questor Allegiance: House Raven, Questor Mechanicus + Lord of War + Armiger Helverins [24 PL, -1CP, 465pts] . Armiger Helverin: Character (Knight Lance), Heirloom: The Bastard's Helm, Heirlooms of the Household, Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber . Armiger Helverin: Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber . Armiger Helverin: Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber Armiger Warglaives [16 PL, 290pts] . Armiger Warglaive: Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber . Armiger Warglaive: Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber Armiger Warglaives [16 PL, 290pts] . Armiger Warglaive: Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber . Armiger Warglaive: Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber Knight Errant [24 PL, -2CP, 465pts]: Character (Knight Lance), Exalted Court: Master of Vox, Heirloom: Sanctuary, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Ion Bulwark Knight Paladin [25 PL, -2CP, 480pts]: Character (Knight Lance), Exalted Court: Master of Lore, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Knightly Teaching: The Wisdom of Nobility, Order of Companions, Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Blessed by the Sacristans . Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon w/ Questor Cognis Heavy Stubber ++ Total: [105 PL, 1CP, 1,990pts] ++ Edited April 24, 2023 by TechCaptain librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5938841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) Round 4 was another loss. This guy was tricky with teleporting, Smiting. and using terrain to befuddle my movements like crazy. His List: Spoiler ++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [102 PL, 3CP, 20 Cabal Points, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Fast Attack Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Cults of the Legion: Cult of Duplicity Detachment Command Cost Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen + HQ + Ahriman [9 PL, 3 Cabal Points, 180pts]: 21. Presage, 22. Weaver of Fates, 23. Temporal Surge, Disc of Tzeentch, Warlord Exalted Sorcerer [8 PL, -1CP, 3 Cabal Points, 145pts]: 11. Tzeentch's Firestorm, 13. Doombolt, Athenaean Scrolls, Disc of Tzeentch, Inferno Bolt Pistol, Rehati, Stratagem: Sorcerous Arcana Infernal Master [5 PL, -2CP, 2 Cabal Points, 90pts]: 33. Desecration of Worlds, 5. Glimpse of Eternity, 6. Malefic Maelstrom, Master Misinformator, Stratagem: High Acolytes, Stratagem: Relic, Umbralefic Crystal + Troops + Rubric Marines [6 PL, 2 Cabal Points, 110pts]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: 12. Glamour of Tzeentch, Inferno Bolt Pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon Rubric Marines [6 PL, 2 Cabal Points, 110pts]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: 12. Glamour of Tzeentch, Inferno Bolt Pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon Rubric Marines [6 PL, 2 Cabal Points, 110pts]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: 31. Empyric Guidance, Inferno Bolt Pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon Rubric Marines [12 PL, 2 Cabal Points, 237pts]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: 32. Pyric Flux, Warpflame pistol . 9x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: 9x Warpflamer Rubric Marines [13 PL, 2 Cabal Points, 252pts]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: 23. Temporal Surge, Ardent Automata, Warpflame pistol . 9x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: 9x Warpflamer Thousand Sons Cultists [2 PL, 50pts] . Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer . Cultist Champion: Autogun . 8x Cultist w/ autogun: 8x Autogun Thousand Sons Cultists [2 PL, 50pts] . Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer . Cultist Champion: Autogun . 8x Cultist w/ autogun: 8x Autogun + Elites + Scarab Occult Terminators [20 PL, 1 Cabal Points, 430pts]: 2x Hellfyre missile rack . Scarab Occult Sorcerer: 11. Gaze of Hate, Inferno combi-bolter . 7x Terminator: 7x Inferno combi-bolter, 7x Prosperine khopesh . Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Soulreaper cannon . Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Soulreaper cannon Tzaangor Shaman [4 PL, 1 Cabal Points, 60pts]: 21. Temporal Manipulation + Fast Attack + Chaos Spawn [1 PL, 21pts]: Chaos Spawn Chaos Spawn [1 PL, 21pts]: Chaos Spawn Tzaangor Enlightened [3 PL, 54pts]: Aviarch, Divining spears . 2x Enlightened . . 2x Disc of Tzeentch: 2x Disc blades + Dedicated Transport + Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]: Havoc launcher, Inferno combi-melta ++ Total: [20 Cabal Points, 102 PL, 3CP, 2,000pts] ++ Edited April 24, 2023 by TechCaptain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5938847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) Round 5 I forgot to take pictures but was my win solely because Dark Eldar are not great and even worse, they don't have much against Vehicles. His List: Spoiler ++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Aeldari - Drukhari) [107 PL, 2,000pts, 1CP] ++ + Configuration + Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Troops Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen Obsession: Realspace Raid . *Custom Coven*: Experimental Creations, Splinterblades + Stratagems + Stratagem: Alliance of Agony [-1CP] Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP]: Additional Relics Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP]: Additional Relics + HQ + Archon [5 PL, 85pts, -2CP]: Blast Pistol, Hatred Eternal, Kabal of the Black Heart, Raid Mastermind, Soulheim, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Venom Blade, Warlord . Splintered Genius (Black Heart): Splintered Genius Drazhar [8 PL, 145pts]: The Executioner's Demiklaives Haemonculus [5 PL, 100pts]: As Detachment (Coven), Haemonculus Tools, Ichor Injector, Master Regenerist, Scissorhand, Stinger Pistol, Stratagem: Alliance of Agony WLT, The Helm of Spite . Alchemical Maestro (Custom): Alchemical Maestro Succubus [5 PL, 95pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Competitive Edge, Stratagem: Alliance of Agony WLT, The Triptych Whip, Wych Cult of Strife . Agoniser & Archite Glaive: Agoniser, Archite Glaive . Show Stealer (Strife): Show Stealer + Troops + Haemoxytes [8 PL, 130pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . 8x Haemoxyte: 8x Wrack Blade . Haemoxyte Acothyst: Flesh Gauntlet, Hexrifle . Haemoxyte w/ Special Weapon: Liquifier Gun, Wrack Blade Hekatrix Bloodbrides [8 PL, 160pts]: 4 - Painbringer (Combat Drug), Wych Cult of Strife . Hekatrix: Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Plasma Grenades . 6x Hekatrix Bloodbride: 6x Hekatarii Blade, 6x Plasma Grenades, 6x Splinter Pistol . Hekatrix Bloodbride w/ Hydra Gauntlets: Hydra Gauntlets, Plasma Grenades . Hekatrix Bloodbride w/ Razorflails: Plasma Grenades, Razorflails . Hekatrix Bloodbride w/ Shardnet and Impaler: Plasma Grenades, Shardnet and Impaler Kabalite Trueborn [8 PL, 145pts]: Kabal of the Black Heart . 7x Kabalite Trueborn: 7x Splinter Rifle . Kabalite Trueborn w/ Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance . Kabalite Trueborn w/ Special Weapon: Blaster . Trueborn Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Power sword, Splinter Rifle Wracks [6 PL, 120pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Acothyst: Hexrifle, Venom Blade . Wrack w/ Special Weapon: Liquifier Gun, Wrack Blade . Wrack w/ Special Weapon: Liquifier Gun, Wrack Blade . 7x Wracks: 7x Wrack Blade + Elites + Incubi [4 PL, 90pts] . 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive . Klaivex: Demiklaives + Fast Attack + Hellions [4 PL, 90pts]: 4 - Painbringer (Combat Drug), Wych Cult of Strife . Helliarch: Hellglaive, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Pods . 4x Hellion: 4x Hellglaive, 4x Splinter Pods Reavers [3 PL, 75pts]: 3 - Hypex (Combat Drug), Grav-talon, Wych Cult of Strife . Arena Champion: Bladevanes, Heat Lance, Splinter Pistol . 2x Reaver: 2x Bladevanes, 2x Splinter Pistol, 2x Splinter Rifle + Heavy Support + Ravager [8 PL, 140pts]: Bladevanes, Chain-snares, 3x Dark Lance, Kabal of the Black Heart, Shock Prow Talos [6 PL, 115pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Talos: Macro-scalpel, Twin liquifier gun . . Two Drukhari haywire blasters: 2x Drukhari Haywire Blaster Talos [6 PL, 100pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Talos: Chain-flails, Talos ichor injector . . Two Drukhari haywire blasters: 2x Drukhari Haywire Blaster + Dedicated Transport + Raider [6 PL, 110pts]: Bladevanes, Chain-snares, Dark Lance, Kabal of the Black Heart Raider [6 PL, 110pts]: Bladevanes, Chain-snares, Dark Lance, Kabal of the Black Heart Raider [6 PL, 110pts]: Bladevanes, Chain-snares, Dark Lance, Kabal of the Black Heart Venom [5 PL, 80pts]: Bladevanes, Chain-snares, Kabal of the Black Heart, Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle ++ Total: [107 PL, 2,000pts, 1CP] ++ Edited April 24, 2023 by TechCaptain Lord_Ikka 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5938849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 So Bryan won best painted I believe and Nick had the best win rate of the Imperial Knight players. Just wanted to note that here. Bryan, Nick, and Garrett all had at least 3 wins. So Congrats to them all. I signed up for another ITC 2k Tournament in my area. I am now Debating running Imperial Knights again. Maybe with a bit of a list change up as I should have two new Moriax to add to my mix, or I could run one of my other Imperial Armies. I have Space Marines, Astra Militarum, and Admech I could run. Astra Militarum I think is in the next best condition for Tourney play. I will get to test them later this week. Focslain, librisrouge and Lord_Ikka 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5939557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 Talking over my guard list with a guard player, it’s fluffy and might work but is definitely subpar. So similar to my Knight list but a lot less powerful but much more board presence. I am leaning to going Knight again but maybe dropping the Preceptor for Two Moriax and maybe a Vindicare Assassin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5939804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 So with the shake up trial of the Guard it is the Knights to run the board in tournament. Just what combination is a question. I will have the above models plus Two Moriax and Maybe an Vindicare Assassin to work with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5941388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) It's going to be hard to change up your list from the Frontier Open with only adding in two Moirax- losing either the Crusader or Preceptor is going to mean loss of Bondsman abilities, while losing the Castellan means that even with adding in a Vindicare you're looking at being about 200 points shy of 2000. If you had another Armiger of any type it could work, as long as you upgraded both the Crusader and Preceptor to have carapace weapons (or give the Preceptor Knight Baron and a Exalted Court upgrade). Edited May 2, 2023 by Lord_Ikka Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 I was thinking of Dropping the Preceptor and giving the Castellan the Master of Lore Exalted Court upgrade to do the bondsmen ability but I am unsure if that is a good path. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) Hmm. Since the Preceptor doesn't get a Bondsman ability, just the Knightly Teachings, using the Castellan instead might actually work. You might not be able to fit in the Vindicare though- I'm showing the list at 2025 with the 2 Warglaives, 3 Moirax, Crusader w/Master of Vox, Castellan w/Master of Lore, and Vindicare. Edited May 2, 2023 by Lord_Ikka TechCaptain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 Good point, I wasn't able to do up all the adding in the Warhammer app since it doesn't do the Exalted Court upgrades. Dropping the Vindicare then would free up for more upgrades however. Still have been thinking through this process, and wondering if it is worth losing the high intensity shots of the Preceptor which are very effective against high toughness and armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 True. Losing the Preceptor gets you two Moiraxes though, which increases your board control possibilities. Dropping the Vindicare would let you take meltas on the two Warglaives, a Stormspear pod/melta instead of stubber on the Crusader to get you to 1990 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 Nice, nice. and I can go Bastard Helm for a second Relic since I have no Melee focused big guy to make a fourth Bondsmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Yup. Maybe put it on a Moirax, as the Warglaives won't get a lot of benefit from the +1 to Wound unless you're putting them into T8 or higher stuff. The volkite on the Moirax will have much more use for the Helm and you even will be able to chip-shot vehicles with the rad-cleansers on 5+ which is better than the 6s you're normally need. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 I was thinking on a twin Lightning Lock Moriax for the Either the Bastard Bond or the host and yea the other on Volkite. The third Moriax with claw and Beam Cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5942539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 Do you think @Lord_Ikka that twin Volkite might be better than the claw and Volkite for this? Run them basically as off brand Helverin? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5943472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 It wouldn't be a bad option- with the Helm the volkite becomes very similar to the Helverin autocannon but damage 2 rather than 3, and with the possibility of mortal wounds. Since you don't already have Helverins, using a couple of Moirax as stand-ins in your backfield could work really well. TechCaptain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5943506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Claw/Flamer Moiraxes can be pretty funny when you can pair them with an Errant that can give out perma-4++. Advance - Shoot Flamers - Charge. It's a lot of early pressure. Might also be worth looking at another Household. Before the Guard codex came out I was running a Freeblade Lance at a number of events and they were great fun, with lots of neat tools. Like the above Moirax' could have Strike & Shield, so they only be hit on 4s after they charged in turn 1. If you run multiple big knights as Freeblades it could also be worth giving one of them the trait that lets them come in from reserves turn 1. TechCaptain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5944173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) Repainted the Gold Knight to be the Golden Baron of my house. And the New Moriax are coming along. Edited May 6, 2023 by TechCaptain Focslain and Lord_Ikka 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5944652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 So I won 3 games out of six. I am still downloading pictures but I honestly didn't take enough pictures of my actual battles. I apologize for that. I want to write up some of these when I have time. My favorite game was game 4 and as a note I played Chaos Knights Games 4 and 5, Imperial Knights Game 6, Black Legion with Abaddon Game 2 and 3 with Game 3's version to have a patrol of Wardogs. So lots of Knight violence on my part. Day 1 Day 2 Game 4 Opponent My Army but subtract the Preceptor he is only there because I wanted him on the Display. Game 2's Army sairence and Lord_Ikka 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377929-2k-itc-tournament-help-for-house-f%C3%A1sacha/#findComment-5950038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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