KnightofSigismund Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Y’all that was funny lol Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Urauloth said: These are great, but I'm a little bit worried how my CSM terminators are going to look next to them scale-wise. These seem like they're a lot bigger. They are pretty much the same size. Difference in pose will have them about 1-2mm taller but it won't be a huge difference. The legs on the Loyalist ones do appear slightly bulkier but again they are very very close as the new Chaos Terminators were among the first to be rescaled. They will absolutely dwarf the Thousand Sons terminators though. Interrogator Stobz, WARMASTER_ and Urauloth 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesuVult Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Hopefully this means everyone will be able to use any transport as well. My land raider crusader will be a nice fit for 5 terminators, an HQ, and some bladeguard. Crimson Longinus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, DesuVult said: Hopefully this means everyone will be able to use any transport as well. My land raider crusader will be a nice fit for 5 terminators, an HQ, and some bladeguard. I'm hoping now that Terminators got thier new kit they'll change Bladeguard into a proper bodyguard unit and do something to make agressors more umm agressive cuase those two always seemed semi redundant like Primaris consolation versions of the two types of Terminator. Being able to run my redeemer again will be nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) Something I've not seen anyone has speculated on... since we have new Terminators does that mean we'll end up with new Terminator special characters? I loved the Calgar in Terminator armour, so seeing a new version over that Gravis armoured one would be big for me. I'm sure there are folk who'd like to see a Lysander too. Edited March 23, 2023 by Captain Idaho Scribe, Interrogator Stobz, Kallas and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 The guns on Aggressors could, judging by the spinefists profile on the Termagant sheet, be easily changed to twin-linked assault pistols to enable a slightly altered behaviour to terminators. Kallas and Aarik 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Something I've not seen anyone has speculated on... since we have new Terminators does that mean we'll end up with new Terminator special characters? I loved the Calgar in Terminator armour, so seeing a new version over that Gravis armoured one would be big for me. I'm sure there are folk who'd like to see a Lysander too. The armour of Antilochus was arguably the best version of him. I'll take teleport over an extra pip of toughness anyday of the week. An upscaled version of it would look so good and the old pose was chef's kiss. Karhedron and Captain Idaho 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecanojavi99 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Idaho said: Something no one has speculated on... since we have new Terminators does that mean we'll end up with new Terminator special characters? I loved the Calgar in Terminator armour, so seeing a new version over that Gravis armoured one would be big for me. I'm sure there are folk who'd like to see a Lysander too. Seeing how GW keeps Primarising characters, it's just a matter of time for characters like Belial, Lysander and Logan to get the same treatment, just that instead of using Gravis armor they'll still use Terminator armor. About Calgar, I really fail to the see the need for another one, the one we have now is perfectly fine and modern. BLACK BLΠFLY, phandaal, skylerboodie and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesuVult Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I would appreciate Lysander in upscaled terminator plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, mecanojavi99 said: Seeing how GW keeps Primarising characters, it's just a matter of time for characters like Belial, Lysander and Logan to get the same treatment, just that instead of using Gravis armor they'll still use Terminator armor. About Calgar, I really fail to the see the need for another one, the one we have now is perfectly fine and modern. Well one reason for an alternate Calgar is it has precedent as there were two versions of him for the longest time one in Artificier and one In the Armour of Antilochus. Another way to look at the Terminator characters is they don't have to shove everyone through the Rubicon either they can just make new Lysander and new Grimnar and call it a day. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Chapter Master Valrak said: About to talk about this on my stream now, bring 10 memberships and I will answer what you need Cringe…. Begging for subscribers … M. BLACK BLŒ FLY, stretch_135, zarkkarn and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I'm not the fan of the gravis one. I don't like the pose, don't like the backpack vents on the front... But that's a bias of course. New Terminator armoured Calgar would bring back a lot nostalgia points. Oooo imagine someone doing a conversion! Hmm, wonder if I could pull that off! jaxom 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecanojavi99 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, OttoVonAwesome said: Well one reason for an alternate Calgar is it has precedent as there were two versions of him for the longest time one in Artificier and one In the Armour of Antilochus. Another way to look at the Terminator characters is they don't have to shove everyone through the Rubicon either they can just make new Lysander and new Grimnar and call it a day. Just because it has precedent doesn't mean it has to be done, there are plenty of other characters that need an update before even thinking about a new Calgar. Why would GW not primarise everyone? Specially now that the last barrier, lack of Primaris Terminators, is no longer a thing? Even Dante has crossed the Rubicon, it's just logical that they'll keep doing it. BLACK BLΠFLY and Brother Borgia 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Something I've not seen anyone has speculated on... since we have new Terminators does that mean we'll end up with new Terminator special characters? I loved the Calgar in Terminator armour, so seeing a new version over that Gravis armoured one would be big for me. I'm sure there are folk who'd like to see a Lysander too. Lysander, Belial, Logan etc I could see them keeping in Terminator Armour now rather than in Gravis for sure, but I strongly doubt they'd re-do Calgar again when he's only a few years old as it is. The "precedent" of there being two Calgar models is more that when the Terminator Armour one came out (I think with the 5th Edition Codex, so 2008ish?) they never retired the Power Armour one from 2nd Edition that was already 13 years old. That's very different from replacing a still "new" (in modern terms) sculpt from just over 4 years ago. He doesn't need a 5th iteration when we're still running around with 2nd Edition Ezekiels Edited March 23, 2023 by Halandaar skylerboodie and Brother Borgia 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Halandaar said: Lysander, Belial, Logan etc I could see them keeping in Terminator Armour now rather than in Gravis for sure, but I strongly doubt they'd re-do Calgar again when he's only a few years old as it is. Grimnar is likely next I reckons. I'd love to get Agemman too, but that's always been an Ultramarines fanboy desire. You're likely right about Calgar. Sadly for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montuhotep Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I confess, the one quibble I have with the Primaris has always been how GW have taken EVERY Marine character and put them through the Rubicon - just for once I'd like to see a named character go: "Unh-hunh. Nope." Bur I can't wait for those Termies. Now, let's see them do the close combat ones.... skylerboodie and Kallas 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Grimnar is likely next I reckons. I'd love to get Agemman too, but that's always been an Ultramarines fanboy desire. You're likely right about Calgar. Sadly for me. Technically Agemman is in the box set as that's clearly him and is very similar to the old plastic terminator captain they painted up like him and used to depict him in the art, same sword and heraldry and blonde crew cut. Would be nice if he had bespoke rules and Invictus' plasma blaster though. Edited March 23, 2023 by OttoVonAwesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: I'm not the fan of the gravis one. I don't like the pose, don't like the backpack vents on the front... But that's a bias of course. New Terminator armoured Calgar would bring back a lot nostalgia points. Oooo imagine someone doing a conversion! Hmm, wonder if I could pull that off! technically it’s not Gravis as it confers 2+ save and 6" movement. Plus it halves damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecanojavi99 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Montuhotep said: I confess, the one quibble I have with the Primaris has always been how GW have taken EVERY Marine character and put them through the Rubicon - just for once I'd like to see a named character go: "Unh-hunh. Nope." Bur I can't wait for those Termies. Now, let's see them do the close combat ones.... Seeing how even characters like Dante and Azrael have crossed the Rubicon, I just don't see why would any character refuse the procedure, even Gabriel Seth accepted the Primaris once it was revealed they still had the flaws. I just see it as a matter of time before everyone is Primaris, except for maybe Bjorn since there is not much left of him anyways. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Grimnar is likely next I reckons. I'd love to get Agemman too, but that's always been an Ultramarines fanboy desire. You're likely right about Calgar. Sadly for me. I'd be surprised if it was Grimnar, given that his current miniature is plastic. With Calgar, Dante, Ragnar, Khan, and Shrike, they weren't just updating the characters to modern designs, they were retiring ancient finecast models. So for Space Wolves, I expect to see Njal and Arjak terminator redesigns before we see Grimnar. BLACK BLΠFLY, Karhedron, skylerboodie and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Something I've not seen anyone has speculated on... since we have new Terminators does that mean we'll end up with new Terminator special characters? I loved the Calgar in Terminator armour, so seeing a new version over that Gravis armoured one would be big for me. I'm sure there are folk who'd like to see a Lysander too. Coughs... Belial darkangels91, Bryan Blaire, Brother Borgia and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, BLACK BLŒ FLY said: technically it’s not Gravis as it confers 2+ save and 6" movement. Plus it halves damage. Erm, I don't think that's the test. Oxydo and WARMASTER_ 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: I'm not the fan of the gravis one. I don't like the pose, don't like the backpack vents on the front... But that's a bias of course. New Terminator armoured Calgar would bring back a lot nostalgia points. Oooo imagine someone doing a conversion! Hmm, wonder if I could pull that off! I'm thinking about it and most of the old details can be taken from the new and old model. Would really only have to sculpt the upper part of the hood and his lower leg details, iv'e got printed chest ropes... Yeah damn. Geuss I'll be doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) @Sword Brother Adelard That’s fluff not lore. The codex states he has the Armor of Heraclus. Edited March 23, 2023 by BLACK BLŒ FLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) I assume there is some level of course change by GW because if they were going to rerelease Terminator armour all along It doesn't really work with with many special character having Gravis instead. Edited March 23, 2023 by Bradeh Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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