Shinespider Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Pretty much exactly what was promised. A straight up-scale and up-detail of the Indomitus. No frills, no actual changes. Kallas, Lork and Filius 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 They did exactly what I wanted them to do. If you love Firstborn, these are for you. If you love Primaris, these are for you. Primaris can wear the classic relics of the Chapter, as they should as Space Marines. Bryan Blaire, Detjan, Firedrake Cordova and 10 others 8 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Very nice, take a classic design, fix the scale, upgrade the sprue. Great job! Master Commander Ajax, madlibrarian and Kallas 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Scribe said: Primaris? "First Born"? "They are either, or both." The battle is over? Interesting development. Interesting indeed. Good way for GW to sell models to people who only collect Primaris or Classic Marines lol But this is a good move. They can all be Primaris, or - if you want to play games set prior to the Primaris - they can be Firstborn. Edited March 23, 2023 by Orange Knight Brother Captain Arkley, Scribe, Kallas and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhonian Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Slips said: I like the scale of the new Terminator models, it translates the bulk and protection of the TDA well. Now I'm curious to see how they compare to the Chaos Terminators. El_Dicko 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamedake88 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 They're about 3 or so mil bigger. I'd say the eyes on you standard chaos terminator comes up to the top of the silver dog muzzle of the new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) So these are a lot bigger than Chaos Terminators? That's a bit strange imo, considering how new the Chaos kit is... Edited March 23, 2023 by Orange Knight Maschinenpriester 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Forget who had wanted the clearly defined separate barrels on the storm bolter, but they're gonna be so pumped on this. Amazing revamp of an all time classic design. tinpact and Firedrake Cordova 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) I do like that GW is moving away from the Primaris vs Firstborn differentiation. I am super bummed out to see those Indomitus Termies (the best Termies) are 40k specific, meaning to make them 30k compliant you need to do a lot filing to get rid of the crux terminatus. Edited March 23, 2023 by m0nolith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 So some of the terminators inside the armour just a little smaller and weaker than the others? Just kidding, this works for me, as long as the scale is consistent. I can combine these badboys with the Wolf Guard terminator kit to make some appropriately sized big boys. boys. KnightofSigismund 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesuVult Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, m0nolith said: I do like that GW is moving away from the Primaris vs Firstborn differentiation. I am super bummed out to see those Indomitus Termies (the best Termies) are 40k specific, meaning to make them 30k compliant you need to do a lot filing to get rid of the crux terminatus. There will be like a day 2 stl for different pauldrons. Lexington, AenarIT and Aarik 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirix Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I'm very happy, was hoping the "it's just the same but more detailed/scaled up" rumours were going to be true, seems so! Shame we only have two to look at, I want to see that Cyclone Missile Launcher! FarFromSam and Kallas 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, m0nolith said: I do like that GW is moving away from the Primaris vs Firstborn differentiation. I am super bummed out to see those Indomitus Termies (the best Termies) are 40k specific, meaning to make them 30k compliant you need to do a lot filing to get rid of the crux terminatus. That was always the case and if the shoulder pad is removable, no worries. The bigger issue is their size. They are bigger than a Primaris and those are already massive in comparison to 30k Marines. Using them in 30k will look super weird and disproportionate. MithrilForge and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Very, very pretty. Happy to see GW moving away from Primaris/First Born being a big deal in-universe. Primaris are just a re-scale. FarFromSam, Karhedron, dienekes96 and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Bruinen Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Really happy to see these, a very faithful resculpt of a classic unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 "Taller, looks alright next to primaris marines" Check "Better proportioned, no more arms out the ear syndrom" Check "Some other improvements, notably a better detailed stormbolter" Double check Yeah. Okay. You win, GW. I'll get some. Brother Carpenter, tinpact, Odd-ad and 7 others 8 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangomatic82 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Those models are absolute fire, really excellent. Also, no mention of the "Hellfire" Brutalis? I giggled when i saw that in the video. Straight up Dawn of War vibes and so friggin cool :) Also, all the combi, melta, flamer and plasma guns interspersed within what looked like intercessor and phobos squads seems like maybe they can all be "Tactical" squads now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I figured the fact that GW has come out and said imdomitus terminators can be firstborn of marines and or Primaris would have squashed the whole “firstborn are being dropped.” The reality (or lack there of) some of our fellow hobbyist continue to subscribe to is blowing my mind… I know no one here has mentioned it yet, but this proves several things: -Gravis armor is not meant to replace terminators. -Firstborn are still going to be around. If anything, to me this means we’re going to see non-Primaris models a permanent part of the game going forward. HolyPestilience, Asbestress, Bryan Blaire and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bloody Legionnaire said: I figured the fact that GW has come out and said imdomitus terminators can be firstborn of marines and or Primaris would have squashed the whole “firstborn are being dropped.” The reality (or lack there of) some of our fellow hobbyist continue to subscribe to is blowing my mind… I know no one here has mentioned it yet, but this proves several things: -Gravis armor is not meant to replace terminators. -Firstborn are still going to be around. If anything, to me this means we’re going to see non-Primaris models a permanent part of the game going forward. Or the keyword goes away for everyone, and there may not be any more 1 for 1 updates of traditionally firstborn units. not saying this is how it will be, but just a possibility. Bryan Blaire 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bloody Legionnaire said: I figured the fact that GW has come out and said imdomitus terminators can be firstborn of marines and or Primaris would have squashed the whole “firstborn are being dropped.” The reality (or lack there of) some of our fellow hobbyist continue to subscribe to is blowing my mind… -Firstborn are still going to be around. If anything, to me this means we’re going to see non-Primaris models a permanent part of the game going forward. well... they just so happen to be releasing quite a lot of non-primaris that I imagine people will want to run in 40k too can't pump out a whole bunch of plastic land raiders and rhino chassis's and yank it from 40k Edited March 23, 2023 by spessmarine WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 43 minutes ago, Slips said: Well, I may touch up my Deathwing … and cork up the bases. Lork 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramell Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Djangomatic82 said: Those models are absolute fire, really excellent. Also, no mention of the "Hellfire" Brutalis? I giggled when i saw that in the video. Straight up Dawn of War vibes and so friggin cool :) Also, all the combi, melta, flamer and plasma guns interspersed within what looked like intercessor and phobos squads seems like maybe they can all be "Tactical" squads now?? It's a new all-flamer squad, with Fire Support markings, a Primaris Sternguard squad, and what's probably a new Phobos Lieutenant or specialist, with the latter two having combi-weapons. I don't see any sign of mixed squads. Karhedron and painting.for.my.sanity 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Or the keyword goes away for everyone, and there may not be any more 1 for 1 updates of traditionally firstborn units. not saying this is how it will be, but just a possibility. I’m sorry, but what are you smoking that has you stuck on this idea? We have just been giving proof of a brand new “firstborn” kit that the naysayers claimed would never happen again. I don’t think key words going away is relevant to the argument at all. That whole theory was proven to be flat out wrong. Done! End of story… Kastor Krieg, Rik Lightstar and Lord Blacksteel 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Bloody Legionnaire said: I’m sorry, but what are you smoking that has you stuck on this idea? We have just been giving proof of a brand new “firstborn” kit that the naysayers claimed would never happen again. I don’t think key words going away is relevant to the argument at all. That whole theory was proven to be flat out wrong. Done! End of story… You mean the kit that was stated to be piloted by Primaris? Master Commander Ajax, BLACK BLŒ FLY, Inquisitor_Lensoven and 1 other 2 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Folks are too funny… Maybe the Mods really are just going to have to lock down any pro-specific Marine template BS here. Some people just won’t quit even when shown something by the company making the models. People that supported one side were ticked off in other threads about keyword removal, now they are trying to tout it as a benefit that supports their personal view on it, etc. Ridiculous. Arkangilos, Karhedron, Kallas and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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